CX820Joe Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 The latest FW has the combine buyers guide, and out of 146 models, there are only 4 below £100,000 - New Holland TC5060 FS & SL, and the Sampo Rosenlew 2065 and 2085. The most expensive by a long way is the Claas Lexion 600 Terra Trac which will set you back £424,280, while the NH CR9090 elevation is £371,539. The most expensive Deere is the S690i hill master at £362,687. I wish i still had an old issue of power farming when the most expensive combine at the time was a Claas Commandor which was less than £150,000 - you could get yourself a Tucano 320 with 20 foot header for that money now - the only Claas cheaper is the diddy little Avero they have just launched. They haven't put this up on the website yet, so if anyone wants to know any more info give me a shout. On the subject of combines, JD has a combined (pardon the pun) 92 page web brochure covering their range available on their website: http://www.deere.co.uk/en_GB/products/brochures/agriculture/combine.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robl12 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Joe the avero is on the claas website have a whole product page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 Joe the avero is on the claas website have a whole product page Sorry - meant that the buyer guide wasn't up on the FWi site - looking back can see how it looked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James T Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 The most expensive by a long way is the Claas Lexion 600 Terra Trac which will set you back £424,280 Oh go on, I'll take two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05rich Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 if you bought one you would have to sell your house , then live in a combine for the rest of your life :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy140 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 its is quite unbelievable. i reckon if we traded every piece of kit on our farm in we would still have to make up the difference for that 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 From talking to farmers/drivers this year I think those prices are 'list' and quiet heavy discounts are available... Like car buying, no one buy list price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I would imagine loyalty has a lot to do with it as well, if farmers keep going back to the same brand, though you've got to wonder what sort of deal, say, a JD dealer would offer someone whose always bought Claas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 What would a JD dealer offer someone to move over from Claas to JD? Counselling or the name of a good shrink are two things that come to mind!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 What would a JD dealer offer someone to move over from Claas to JD? Counselling or the name of a good shrink are two things that come to mind!!! How did I know you were going to say that Malc?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 malcy_p.....when Jez comes on here I can see him challenging you to a duel ;) :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 and we thought buying a new mf32 for 80 odd thousand was a lot all them years back :D i know they offer discounts ect on that list price but it does baffle me how some contractors even a few farmers seem to change every couple of years ,suerly it cant have made money in that short a term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I was talking to someone the other day whose brother runs a New Holland CX8060...I took photos of what I thought was it last year (07 reg) and so when i saw it this season I didn't worry about getting photos of it, but was told that they had bought a new one for this season! You would think an 07 would have a few more than 2 seasons in it wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 my point exactly joe huge outlay for 2 / 3 years unless you contract a huge area thers no way it could pay back what you have laid out to buy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Do some people lease combines, like companies lease cars/vans? Perhaps that would lead to shorter periods of ownership?? Just a thought? The two guys I spoke to this year who were talking of buying brand new Lexion 600s were in the market to replace their 4 year 600s - which might make more sense over replacing 2/3 year old kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMullen Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 They probably change them once the warranty runs out, as repair costs on such a complex machine would be extremely high \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughmaster Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 Do some people lease combines, like companies lease cars/vans? Perhaps that would lead to shorter periods of ownership?? I would say quite a high proportion of combines (and tractors too) are on lease nowadays. Certainly a lot a bigger farming operations do it this way as they can budget for a known yearly cost - servicing and some of the repairs and replacements are often covered within the lease/warranty which also removes the difficulty of big unexpected repair bills. I used to work on a Velcourt farm and all their combines were on a 4 year lease, and changed for new at the end of the lease period (that amounted to around 30 new combines within the company each year), Quadtracs were on 4 year lease too, and smaller tractors either on 2 year lease or short term hire over the busy seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 i was always told to take 20% off list price with ag machinery when working out machinery costings. The main thing nowadays businesses need a fixed budget and leasing combines and machinery does this, maintenance is included in the cost. When the lease is up these machines just enter the used market in the uk or end up in eastern europe. It does annoy me when people refer to combines as being complex machines, they may seem daunting but its not nuclear physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 the basic machines not complex i guess archbarch, but the computers that allow the thing to run are now, everythingsa simple click of a mouse to fix stuff now, ok for a trained guy, but not farmer giles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 To trade our Claas dom to a new avero would be £130,000+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 I'm still amazed at how quickly people trade kit in we've just bought a 60hour old Claas lexion 580+ with 35ft front and to make figures stack up it will have to be here 8 years we tryed it on a 3 year basis and means my tractor have to be here 10 years and 20,000 hours same with Claas so we're wondering how other figures stack up ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 the basic machines not complex i guess archbarch, but the computers that allow the thing to run are now, everythingsa simple click of a mouse to fix stuff now, ok for a trained guy, but not farmer giles True but electronics can be by passed with a bit of thought and co operation from the dealer at they end of the day dealers dont want anyone to fix machinery because they make a fortune out of call out/ labour charges. I remember one farm i worked on had a new control lever on a jd combine instead of isolating the broken switch and mounting it elsewhere the dealer said because the switch was part of the lever we needed a new lever the farm went along with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Do you still get a trip to the factory if you buy a new JD combine? Years ago if you bought a MF 750/760 you had the choice of £1500 or a mini pickup not sure if this was just dealer related or MF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo22 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hope so. We are just changing our lexion 480 for a s690i. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 jez will know, the prog on nat geo about the usa factory had people there to pick machines up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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