CX820Joe Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 I know I've never completed anything layout wise, but I am in a better position to get something done now, having had a move around and a clear out, and have settled on this idea of a large German/French arable (cereal/beet) operation. The main reason for choosing this and not a UK is I have a fair bit of tackle which would not appear in our lanes. Anyway, what I was thinking Tractor wise was to have the JD 9530T on the seed drill, and then a pair of 8340T's and Vaderstad topdowns for the main tillage work; I would also keep a plough in reserve, which could also run off one of the 8340's...the idea is for something of around 10000 acres, so can anybody suggest anything else I might need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 the deere 5430i sprayer joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 Ah yes...was thinking about the Replicagri Berthoud, but sp would probably be better, and I imagine a bit cheaper too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 And it is more big scale and would have the John Deere GPS bits too, better for the operators and costs mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 large water bowser for the sprayer,subsoiler,grain trailers,10,000 acres, ah ,couple of lexion 600's or nh 9080's,rollers,flatbed trailer,telehandler,the list goes on, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 the reason i replied joe is i am now in a position to go up into my attic,checked up on my neihgbours attic who has a train layout,so im starting from scratch,i need to put lighting up first,proper insulation and floor it out and im going to base my layout on the 6000 acre arable farm i used to work on,my prime movers will be a 3800 and 3300 xerion for drilling and cultivating work and an axion 850 with quadrant,1 lexion 600,all the other bits i will then have to get,same list as i posted up,sp sprayer, water bowser etc,plus sheds buildings ,diesel tanks etc ,cant wait to start ,hopefully lights going up next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 What I have at the moment includes: Combines: Claas Lexion 600 JD T670i Tractors JD 9530T JD 8340T JD 7930 NH T7060 Ford FW-60 Ford FW-30 Implements: Vaderstad 800C rapid drill Dangreville Trailer Maupu Trailer x 2 Lemken Plough Lemken Cultivator Simba Discs Amazone Centaur Will hopefully trade in the Lemken, Simba and Amazone for 2 Topdowns. Possibly will get another T670i and hopefully the Ropa Beet harvester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 i will be getting rid of my topdown and replace with siku lemken gigant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 what i have got claas xerion 3800 claas xerion 3300 axion 850 claas quadrant 3400 vaderstad 8 metre drill vaderstad topdown 400 landrover claas lexion 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Beet hrvester? What reason? Another T670? Good chice, i would stick the right shade of green mate...... But I am bias..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 Mainly because I like the look of the Ropa!! Beet hrvester? What reason? Another T670? Good chice, i would stick the right shade of green mate...... But I am bias..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 what ever you do joe dont over machine it mate, keep the bare minimum in the farm even if it means a out barn in a field corner somewhere on the edge of the layout, nothing worse than 15 tractors and every bit of kit piled into a small area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 No, won't go too mad mate, no more than 6/7 tractors I reckon - perhaps a few 'foreign' ones to help out now and then. Maybe have a few bits of disintegrating stuff around the place too...derelict FW to support the 2 runners that sort of thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masseyjack590 Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 in France they cultivate everywhere before ploughing so you would need a couple of something like the uh carrier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I have seen a convo of a 9530T with Siku hitch which tempts me - should I get this or stick with the one I have? Not sure which mounted implements could be used to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Lots of sheds,the Germans are fussy and like every thing under cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I have seen a convo of a 9530T with Siku hitch which tempts me - should I get this or stick with the one I have? Not sure which mounted implements could be used to be honest. No mate, stick to the drawbar power. I would have an 8530 and the big gregoire besson plough for the ploughing duties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I shouldn't think you would be applying granular fertiliser on 10k acres so for your 5430i you would have bunded tanks dotted around the land. You'd have premixed chemical delivered to be used almost immediatly. At least one more Lexion 600 or similar output combine. Plough on rotation with an 8530 and break it down with a Carrier like Jez and Jack said. A loader tractor would indeed be handy but with 10k and big yards you could put a loader on a bigger tractor like the 7?30 series. You would possibly need a second Topdown too depending on the working of the beet ground. Even with a 7m you could nee two! And with that 6m drill which is going to eat the acres you have to stay ahead. Service truck with air, fuel, power and asscociated tools to go to stricken machinery instead of hauling it back to the farm. Big beet drill. Tanker harvester. Trucks to haul beet away from the field, one or two would be fine or hookloaders on Fastracs with umpteen skips to swap. Loading machinery, Liebherr? . . . . See how you get on with that for a minute! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 I was needing an excuse to get the 8530! I'll skip the siku hitch 9530T, and stick to the one I have. I have a New Holland LW190 loader, would that do instead of a loader tractor? Thanks for the food for thought Tris!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Make a beet bucket for the loader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Joe, if i had 10,000 acres i would have to use the Amazone spreader.... only way to spread!! Needs the GPS though. Also, you need a telehandler for grain handling. I would say the only way to go is JCB but up to you...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 He won't be need a telehandler with that NH with a 4t bucket on I did almost suggest the amazone but thought he could do it all with the JD to save a few pennies. Poor chap will have a nervous breakdown before he has even begun at this rate! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 If I don't have one the bank manager probably will! What else could the 9530T be used for - or would planting upwards of 6000 acres keep it sufficiently busy and make it pay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masseyjack590 Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 you definitely need rtk gps on 10,000 acres and maybe another 5430i and some sort of spreader for compound like the uh amazone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 we had a challenger rogator sprayer and an amazone spreader and that was on 6000 acres so go for the jd sprayer and amazone if you want to joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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