Lord Ferguson Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 that is some seriously nice looking piece of kit Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxy Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 around me ther mostly dooley troupe smyth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bd contracts Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 there s afew farmers usin the chassic of a six and eightwheels bulk grain lorries . cut the chassic behind the cab put a draw bar on and away go.there s a company beside me draws a artic bulk tipping trailer behind the tractor on a fifth wheel bogie. straw as well. good education on how to reverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 that is some seriously nice looking piece of kit Chris thanks mark, currently have silage sides off for barley and was hauling dung with it last week and will have to again next week as the draw bar fell out of our 4t marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 that is a good idea intey. I wouldnt say this topic has turned into a whats the best topic, other opinions are available, its a discussion about whats around in the trailer market, it must be an interesting topic otherwise it wouldnt have so many posts?? i would say a trailer in whatever form grain,silage, bale etc is the 2nd most important part of farm equipment after the tractor, but is the most neglected, abused, least maintained, piece of equipment on most farms???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Nice one Chris... Don't tell me about problems with your 4t marshall... I've just treated myself to.. invested in one here is my Bailey.. had it about 4-5 years now I think.. worn out one ste of tyres only... so it's not done a huge amount of work... and last and by ALL MEANS least... the nasty old Griffiths... Not sure what those black things with horns are mind you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Steaks to Be fair tho the marshall is 20 years old and had carted 2 5ton load of 2" gravel the day it happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 My thoughts...there is a trailer for every job and you buy what you require. I bought a new one recently and was amazed by the differences in steel thickness - floors from 2.0mm to 4.5mm, sides varied by the same - axle size and manufacturer, brakes, hitch quality etc. The volume differences in a '10tonne' trailer are large too. So if you want a light trailer purely for hauling silage (for example) it will be a different beast to one which will haul grain on fields or a 40k trailer mainly doing roadwork where stone or gravel is hauled. i would say a trailer in whatever form grain,silage, bale etc is the 2nd most important part of farm equipment after the tractor, but is the most neglected, abused, least maintained, piece of equipment on most farms? ??? Would agree on a lot of farms that is true but now with, say, a 5 t trailer with 14 t on board travelling at 40 k it cannot afford to be badly maintained - and there's no excuse. I tend to think that there's not a lot wrong with a well maintained PUH and eye as the trailer should tow well and be doing it's own braking. I have a 22year old AS Ace trailer which has been treated well and is still perfect, I did buy a Griffiths second hand and the sides bulged with a load of wheat - it's gone. Also have a Marshall QM which is very heavy, good volume, tows well but the paint is a bit poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 That load transfer idea is available with rear discharge spreaders I believe, some anyway. Another way I thought of could be to hydraulically raise the chassis from the rear most axle, this would alter the load distribution when tipping and effectively raise the first axle from the ground. This would also reduce tyre wear when running empty. The Fastrac has the best towing capability due to the wieght it can transfer to it's front axle. Towing vehicles need wieght (and have it distributed better) to improve handling and counter the wieght of the towed machine when braking. Hence the axle payloads on triaxle trailers over 6x2 tractor units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 with a trailer for every need a hook-loada system makes sense, one chassis, various bodies. The initial cost would be high but would save in the long run. I havent seen any around in ag use but then its all grain, beet and tates around the fens. I havent seen any evidence but would a half-pipe reduce damage to potatoes when unloading?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 with a trailer for every need a hook-loada system makes sense, one chassis, various bodies. The initial cost would be high but would save in the long run. I havent seen any around in ag use but then its all grain, beet and tates around the fens. I havent seen any evidence but would a half-pipe reduce damage to potatoes when unloading? ? I understand hook loadas on lorries but not on tractors, right various bodies, 1 tractor to pull them all on one chassis, what happens when you want a body shifted and someone is away with the chassis with another body 20 miles away?? Need another chassis so if you have 4-5 normal trailers in the yard i'd hardly think the hook loada system is practical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 there is a guy down here who did use hook loaders for a while on sewage cake and stuff, but he seems to have got rid now and is back to various trailers, all different makes, inc bailleys wotton, 1 redrock, nc think his only maine make is marston for his silage trailers, and i noticed the other day he seems to have got rid of half of those now for nice big rollands, inc a few tri axel ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 I did look at hookloada trailers earlier in the year.. if there was a litle more money in the waste business I'd invest in a system. If you could leave the trailer at a farm and pick it up once a year if would save on baling time.. sadly not enough to warrant such a big investment. I also like the idea of having different bodies... such as low-loaders, dumpers, grain trailers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 what are you trying to sugest here? the real ones are selling like hot cakes the countrys full of them must be something good about them!!! less of the smartness please no smartness on my behalf or suggestion of anything , but then you being 16 years old your experience of trailers is obviously far superior to mine no really i don't get it , half pipe trailers have been around for years just wondered where the sudden interest for them came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intey 434 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 no smartness on my behalf or suggestion of anything , but then you being 16 years old your experience of trailers is obviously far superior to mine no really i don't get it , half pipe trailers have been around for years just wondered where the sudden interest for them came from youve seen a halfpipe silage trailer in britian then before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 19, 2009 Author Share Posted December 19, 2009 no i haven't but rather than sit back & see how well they fare with farmers & contractors alike for a while , it seems they're all the rage without a decent time trial , so what happens in a few years time , when contractors swap them in for conventional trailers because they cant carry the volume ? i really only wanted to know what had happend to suddenly see a great wave of enthusiam for a trailer design that had been about for a fair time ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intey 434 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 the design has been there but never in a silage trailer form, kane then released it about 3 years ago, they become very popular in the south of ireland because of stenght, lightweight and volume it could carry, the word has really spread in the past year or two and thats why there is so much chat about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masseyjack590 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 i have seen plenty of pictures from france of industrial joskin halfpipes with silage sides kane cant be the first to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intey 434 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 i have seen plenty of pictures from france of industrial joskin halfpipes with silage sides kane cant be the first to do it yea my point exactly...france... not britian youve seen a halfpipe silage trailer in britian then before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 i saw a kane silage trailer recently, in the uk, just outside plymouth ,it looked brand new, and if i was totaly honest it didnt really look any different to me other than the shape,i can understand the less welding in that shape, but it didnt apear ground breaking in design or much else i recon its got less steel in it, so less work to make, hence lower cost to the makers, but they sell them at similar or higher prices to normal trailers so make more dosh truth be known Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarty C Posted December 19, 2009 Share Posted December 19, 2009 Im with Sean here, duno what all the fuss is about \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 20, 2009 Author Share Posted December 20, 2009 the design has been there but never in a silage trailer form, kane then released it about 3 years ago, they become very popular in the south of ireland because of stenght, lightweight and volume it could carry, the word has really spread in the past year or two and thats why there is so much chat about them ah thats all i wanted to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Could some of you Kane enthusiasts post up the specifications of a 12t or 14t halfpipe with silage sides please? I want to compare them properly to others'. I can't really see too much of an advantage with them. A bit like sticking your shirt collar up or having twin beacons if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Indeed Tris, I can't see any advantages to them at the moment either. Tried to find some including steel thickness on the Kane ones yesterday but couldn't, would just be interesting to compare it with a conventional Bailey or Western of the same size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy140 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 I agree with Tris and Gav. And also I can't really see the point. At the end of the day a trailer is a trailer, they all do the same job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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