ford 8830 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 not quite as frosty as we hoped!!!!!!!!!!! not sure what to use to move this out at moment ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 8830 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 not to sure why pictures wrong way round either sorry guys just a bad day all round ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Any chance of rotating your photos....I getting a stiff neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 8830 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 two more sorry about quality done on phone...... now which 32nd ;D tractor should i get to pull me out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 not to sure why pictures wrong way round either sorry guys just a bad day all round ??? Hope you don't mind but to get a better view I copied rotated and put on to PB ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Oops! Will she climb out if the drill were dropped off? (assuming you can get it off ) But then I suppose you've got to wait for a frost to retrieve it. Sowing beans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 so many farmers think reduced compaction means they can travel when the grounds not fit!!! Ive been upto the axles a fair few times on Black land but thats like driving across a sponge. I had to be winched out twice, all the Beet contractors have winches to get their SP beet harvesters out, with big kit its the only sensible way to get them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 8830 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 trying to drill winter wheat. this is the area from where they moved the beet off. Ropa mause got stuck in here. ploughed alright so thought i would give it a go!!!!!!!!! got a quad trac comming on monday to give some assistance. the drill is lifted up and still in so guess will take abit of effort.......... more photos to come i guess :of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 flipping hec.. that's going to take some un-gluing .. please keep us posted with plenty of pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 The Quadtrac may struggle for grip pulling a dead wieght like that, mind. I've an idea but I'm oo the mobile. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 blimey dont see that sort of thing stuck to often do you, doesnt look like its in to deep either, not like some other pics i have seen of normal tractors anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 8830 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Share Posted February 13, 2010 you just lose all momentum once the belly hits or one side track spins.... the drill is also full so bulldozing doesnt help come on tris whats your plan..... chinook it out ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thats some mess. I bet someone got a good rollocking for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Why would anyone get a rollocking for it? Happens to us all at times, looks dry on top or ploughed over dry and then once you start to go through it you sink, not easy to get out of either with a trailed drill as reversing them is often out of the question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM190 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 hook the drill off, stop one track and drive the other forward (if you can do that?) have the quad trac pulling at the angle shes going to go Then let it dry then get a normal tractor in to pull the drill out Thats my theroy on the whole situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendthead Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 haha all you can do when that happens is get out and have a laugh . I was always told that rubber tracks were C*#p in wet ground etc as they didn't produce any traction.chap that used one round here would leave it in the shed if things were a bit on the wet side...as if he were to get stuck he would have a BIG problem,,,errrrm as you have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 rubber tracks are crap full stop, when its dry and the going gets tough they just slip inside the track and like you said when its wet no traction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 they must have some benifits otherwise they wouldnt make them?? they never exsisited when i used to be arround farms, although you could get those fords with the rear half tracks on them , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM190 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Are they not really to reduce ground compaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thats what the sales pitch is, our neighbour had to redrill alot of their rape last year though due to excess compaction caused by the Challenger on the drill, that what wasn't you could see the track marks in for a few months, was so hard that the plants were stunted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Me thinks some winching may be needed. How far from hard standing ??? May need to enlist the likes of Growler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 8830 Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 the whole issue of tracks is true when its wet but the kit we have is all geared for this 3000 acres one challenger and a 6930. no point getting the jd to help!!!!!!!! i have never had any problems in the summer will pull 6 metre solo and double press all day at 9-10k so one hell of a single pass. and as for going through the wet area well just doing as the boss ordered!!!!!!! no bollocking just laughed as only 30 acres left to drill, owner normally drives so me just relief so put it down to bad operator : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmitemania Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Growler looks as if he could tug the little oik out, one of the other benefits to rubber tracks is you supposedly get all the + points of a tracked machine, better traction, weight distribution, and all that but because they are rubber straight out the field straight on the Tarmac. I have never seen one or heard of one of our steel tracked 360's getting stuck and they get in some very tricky places, on the other hand the rubber tracked Kubby's do get stuck, and the tracks are always breaking. :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughmaster Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I am not a great fan of rubber tracks, but they do spread the weight over a bigger area than wheels and tyres do. Where the theory falls down with the likes of the big Challengers, Quadtracs and JD on tracks, is the much greater weight of the machine - I'm not sure what that Challenger weighs, but a fully fueled up Quadtrac weighs in just shy of 25 tonnes without the weight of all the muck stuck to it (and of course the weight of the drivers lunch bag). In the case we see here, there is the added effect of the Free Flow drill which are a very dead weight pull in themselves. On the subject of drilling winter wheat into frosty ground, I would say it is a pointless exercise. A couple of years ago I drilled wheat straight behind the plough on some ex-beet land. Drilling spread over two days and there was a very sharp frost overnight. I had drilled almost up to where the plough had got to, just leaving a strip varying from about 0.5m to 1.5m. This was very frozen the next morning when we resumed (that mornings fresh ploughing came up the same as it had done the previous day of course). That strip that was drilled into frozen soil took nearly twice as long to emerge, didn't tiller and never caught up. At harvest, the grains appeared much smaller and we felt there were less of them, and we were thankful we didn't drill the whole field into frost. On a side note, there also appeared to be a small (negative) difference in the crop where the frost had been poughed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Why would anyone get a rollocking for it? Happens to us all at times, looks dry on top or ploughed over dry and then once you start to go through it you sink, not easy to get out of either with a trailed drill as reversing them is often out of the question I would if I got stuck with one of our tractors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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