Valley Axe Man Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 7 hours ago, smithy said: Looking real good there Paul , i have thought about getting a needle gun ,any recommendations as to make ,is it a slow job Thanks Smithy, yes getting the wings bolted up yesterday was one of the hurdles we wanted to clear, with the amount of cutting and welding, and some distortion that's unavoidable with the different contraction rates during cooling with the mild steel and stainless steel I've replaced the rot with.... It was a good sign when everything lined up and sits fairly true 👍 As for a needle gun, they not a bad tool, just slower than sandblasting and also noisy.... But cleaner without all the dust and sand.... Maybe was looking at just over an hour per side on the back wheels, a good user will get a fantastic finish but I tend to let the needles rub in a small maybe inch and a half circular motion so you get e percentage of overlap as yo move along the work, the slower you travel the better job it does. The one I have is an old Chicago Pneumatic, it has 1/8 needles in it and my little compressor can keep up with it, at work we have a Descouter with 3/16 needles, does a great job but needs a lot if air through it... Yet my landlord has one that he got from Machine mart and he's never had a problem with it just a handy sized job but it does what he needs it to do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 A little change from updated on the 472, I had these old photos sent to me off Martin the previous owner of my 4/65 taken at a working day he organised back in 2009... To be fair she hasn't aged much in the past 13 years, I actually think a tractor kept in a drafty shed with good air flow or even left outdoors so the moisture can escape survives better than one tucked up in a sealed shed.... Leyland legend Graham Hill at the wheel, Graham who owns the 1st production 4100 off the line at Bathgate... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Good photos Paul ,allow i think he has to much air in the front wheels ☺️ they seem to be floating in the 2nd photo 😄 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, smithy said: Good photos Paul ,allow i think he has to much air in the front wheels ☺️ they seem to be floating in the 2nd photo 😄 Haha maybe your right there Smithy.. maybe that's the cheats way for power steering 😉 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 4:49 AM, Valley Axe Man said: Thanks Smithy, yes getting the wings bolted up yesterday was one of the hurdles we wanted to clear, with the amount of cutting and welding, and some distortion that's unavoidable with the different contraction rates during cooling with the mild steel and stainless steel I've replaced the rot with.... It was a good sign when everything lined up and sits fairly true 👍 As for a needle gun, they not a bad tool, just slower than sandblasting and also noisy.... But cleaner without all the dust and sand.... Maybe was looking at just over an hour per side on the back wheels, a good user will get a fantastic finish but I tend to let the needles rub in a small maybe inch and a half circular motion so you get e percentage of overlap as yo move along the work, the slower you travel the better job it does. The one I have is an old Chicago Pneumatic, it has 1/8 needles in it and my little compressor can keep up with it, at work we have a Descouter with 3/16 needles, does a great job but needs a lot if air through it... Yet my landlord has one that he got from Machine mart and he's never had a problem with it just a handy sized job but it does what he needs it to do Been to my local agri- machinery dealer today ,AGRI-HIRE ,and spoke to my mate that works there about needle-guns ,he is getting some info on some and coming back to me shortly , Pistol-grip ones . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, smithy said: Been to my local agri- machinery dealer today ,AGRI-HIRE ,and spoke to my mate that works there about needle-guns ,he is getting some info on some and coming back to me shortly , Pistol-grip ones . I'm sure you'll like it Smithy, Shame you weren't nearer and you could have had mine for a demo.... the one I have is a straight one not a pistol type, but a pistol one would be more comfortable to use over a larger area I would say.. have had a look and ordered a new set of needles for mine at £21 the set that been in must have been in for over 10 years so apart from needing to supply them a bit of wind and a drop or two of oil in them from time to time they a cheap way of cleaning off metal.... Just bit un suitable for anything less than 3mm really as they start to deform the metal but anything above 3mm they bob on just remember your earplugs 👍 Edited March 17, 2022 by Valley Axe Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Thanks for the offer of a demo if we was bit closer , for me i think the pistol-grip one will be easer to hold with my slightly bent wrist , i have a pistol-grip air chisel that i get on with ok , i have a pair of wheels i would like to clean up ,will let you now when i get one and yes got the earplugs ready and a set of earmuffs to go over the top 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Grand job Smithy, look forward to seeing your progress 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 A trip to the spiritual home of Nuffield and Leyland tractors (aka Charnleys) this morning, to pillage a few brake bits, caught up with John (JMD) son Matt for a natter and also fellow Leyland fanatic Colin Stafford who was there collecting a freshly purchased McCormick tractor.... Anyhow I digress, once back at the yard I set on with bit of red lead on the pre cleaned steps and then set about whipping the rest of her clothes off to gain access to the front cab panel... hopefully tomorrow I'll get the slave cylinders and linkages mounted for the brakes and the Flexi pipes run in ready for making a couple of new brake pipes 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Also started cleaning off the front axle case, that too got a dose of the red lead, swivels and hubs will get same treatment and then given a lick of dark blue once front wheels are taken off again to be silvered... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 (edited) Unfortunately today's shift at the shed didn't quite reach expectations in work goals... Ended up stripping the diff lock pedal and mounting bracket out of the right hand side trumpet housing and stripping the foot clutch and mounting for the PTO clutch out off the left hand trumpet to gain access to the seized pins in the old push rod end mounting brackets to enable the fitment of the new brake slaves..... So now it's all stripped back might as well set about cleaning it all up and giving it a coat of dark blue before putting it all back together.... So seeing as the brakes are still an on going saga.... I got the back wheels lashed with red lead... Edited March 20, 2022 by Valley Axe Man 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 Bit of silver splashed about tonight and first side of a rear wheel given its first coat... Actually covered not too bad probably a second coat and I'll call it a bobber, also tried a bit of Leyland dark blue on the off side trumpet housing again it's not covered too bad, dabbed the blue dipped brush in and around the anchor points for the brake linkages so hopefully get them back in over weekend if all goes to plan 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 are you spraying that or hand painting it paul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Tractorman810 said: are you spraying that or hand painting it paul? Chassis and wheels will be done with brush, cab frame will probably be roller, but tin work and wings will be sprayed... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 Bit more done, other sides of rear wheels given first coat of silver, floor plates cleaned off and given a dose of red lead, brake linkages refitted, new slaves and return springs, new flexi hoses and a pair of new evergreens to join up to the coppers at the bulkhead, just shy of a bit of dot4 brake fluid for a bleed up ..... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmd Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Bit of colour makes a big difference paul looking good 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 26, 2022 Author Share Posted March 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, jmd said: Bit of colour makes a big difference paul looking good Cheers John, aye just thought I'd see what the trumpets came out like with a bit of blue on, think the chassis will stand being brushed, like the wheels though Gemma done a good job getting the silver on today, whilst keeping an eye on Mick's Lambs... A couple of them were trying to be escape artists...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FendtFarmer Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Valley Axe Man said: Cheers John, aye just thought I'd see what the trumpets came out like with a bit of blue on, think the chassis will stand being brushed, like the wheels though Gemma done a good job getting the silver on today, whilst keeping an eye on Mick's Lambs... A couple of them were trying to be escape artists...... Must be fairly good mechanical is it Paul? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 your getting a dam impressive finish for just brush work paul, last time i saw wheels hand painted they looked terrible, all streaky and ridged from the brush, in-fact they stripped them and did it again with a spray gun (one of my uncles ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, FendtFarmer said: Must be fairly good mechanical is it Paul? Aye mechanical she's ok Ben, runs well, doesn't jump out of high range and 4wd seems nice and tight like it hasn't done a massive amount of heavy draft work.... She had a clutch before Tom sold her to me, now brakes are back in her the only other thing that needs the spanners I'd the spool block for the auxiliaries... Seems to be seized but will strip it and investigate, Pick up hitch needs a bit of work if truth be told as it seems right with being stood like the pivots are seizeing up... Other than that it's just a wiring loom and lights and test of tin work tidying up and paint... She was good under neath just rough on top Edited March 27, 2022 by Valley Axe Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share Posted March 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Tractorman810 said: your getting a dam impressive finish for just brush work paul, last time i saw wheels hand painted they looked terrible, all streaky and ridged from the brush, in-fact they stripped them and did it again with a spray gun (one of my uncles ) Cheers Sean, well the wheels cleaned up fairly well with the needle gun, would have had better finish with sand blasting but set about with a wire brush in grinder, there's still one or two bits that I couldn't get clean but on a whole I'm happy with them, they then got a good coat of red lead with a slug of thinners in it, once dry got a good rub down then the thinners got splashed in the silver, it flows out fairly well from the brush on the rims so don't get too many brush marks, and the centres bring cast already have a textured finish from the casting process but the thinned paint flows out covering the textured surface.... Spraying would be better but due to their shape there's too many places for runs to form.... Hence why I always do wheels with a brush but Gemma really done well on these. Trumpets got same treatment but with dark blue.... Chassis will stand being brushed I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Picked my needle gun up Paul ,not tried it yet as been busy on other jobs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 That be a handy little bit of kit there Smithy 👍 not long back from today's shift at the shed, didn't quite go according to plan as called by yesterday to pick up the hand clutch for the PTO on way back from a trip to Masham and the Black Sheep Brewery with Gemma, anyhow a slight oversight and accidentally picked up a handbrake rather than PTO clutch... Well back to the weeks update.... Brakes bled before setting off to the brewery, so just needs adjusting once rear wheels are on, and then today's work has been more cleaning and priming, cleaned off the inside if the cab, bit more chassis, removed the prop cover and cleaned out before cleaning off and priming,front diff cleaned off and a trial of the light blue on the inner wing to see what coverage would be like.... Maybe needs just a touch more thinners but does seem to cover fairly well off the roller and brush 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted April 10, 2022 Author Share Posted April 10, 2022 A few productive hours with Gemma on what could be called Blue Sunday 🤣 got the handbrake swapped for a hand clutch on a quick trip up to Tom's, and had a cheeky brew and bit of cake in Wray on way back ... Anyhow hand clutch cleaned, primed and top coated, hand brake top coated battery box dropped out, cleaned primed and top coated, previously primed front chassis given a top coat of dark blue, just need to get my hands on a couple of 3/4" unf bolts before I can refit the hand clutch and hand brake and couple the clevises up.... Meanwhile Gemma set on giving the outside of the cab its first coat of light blue and also gave the mudguards a rub off and first coat.... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmd Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 looking smart there Paul and Gemma with a bit of blue on 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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