844john Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 hours ago, IH885XLMAN said: Its not a case of just cutting a cylinder out the engine and fitting mf 135 wheels you sit lower down in 454 compared to a 674 or 475 very nice restoration there john Thanks Nigel, you're right, its not just that simple. The cab and seating position in a later Q cabbed 454 is similar to the others in the range, the main difference is that the bonnet line is a few inches lower, and as such also the steering wheel, which meant that it always felt like the steering wheel was in your lap even with the seat in its lowest position! We still have a non- Q cab 454 and it isn't as bad, as the actual seat pan is slightly lower. Also, the king pins are shorter on the 454's to compensate for the smaller back wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 23/01/2018 at 7:47 PM, 844john said: Thanks Joe, it looks like Henri's the man! That's a good idea for the grill, its just the thought of me trying to control all of those tiny bits of plastic and getting them to do what I want.... Liking this tractor, a cracking build. With regards using square section tube (a nice bit of lateral thinking Joe) you could make up the grill using longer pieces and cut to desired length. Gives you the opportunity to make more than one grill then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, super6 said: Liking this tractor, a cracking build. With regards using square section tube (a nice bit of lateral thinking Joe) you could make up the grill using longer pieces and cut to desired length. Gives you the opportunity to make more than one grill then. Cheers Paul,but,after looking again at the picture I posted of the 674,I notice the grill is made up of square and rectangular section,but you can get rectangular styrene,Just had a look on Farmmodels nl,and they have a better selection of tubes than we have here,?? https://www.farmmodels.nl/Rechthoekige-profielen-en-strips https://evergreenscalemodels.com/collections/14-rectangular-tubes-telescoping Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just a quick pic of the revised window rubbers with the white insert instead of all black. Door mirrors made, just to add along with the back window and plough light, then she's ready for work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janval Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I might have missed it in a prevoius post, but what did you use around the windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, Janval said: I might have missed it in a prevoius post, but what did you use around the windows? Glazing cabs is something I hate Jan, it's not so bad when you put the glass on the inside, but for me it never quite looks right, as in real tractors the glass is either flush with, or slightly proud of the outside of the cab (otherwise they would rain in!) So, what I tend to do is cut the "glass" just slightly larger than the window hole in the frame and then go around them with a sharpie to give the impression of the black rubber seal. However, the old inters had a white strip in the middle of the rubber that held the seal in place, and my first attempt that was black only didn't look right to me, so for these I used a very fine paint brush and did a 1mm border around the glass with some white primer. When this was dry I used a black pen to create an edge either side of the white to mimic the rubber surround. This is long- winded even for me, but I hope that explains it Jan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janval Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, 844john said: Glazing cabs is something I hate Jan, it's not so bad when you put the glass on the inside, but for me it never quite looks right, as in real tractors the glass is either flush with, or slightly proud of the outside of the cab (otherwise they would rain in!) So, what I tend to do is cut the "glass" just slightly larger than the window hole in the frame and then go around them with a sharpie to give the impression of the black rubber seal. However, the old inters had a white strip in the middle of the rubber that held the seal in place, and my first attempt that was black only didn't look right to me, so for these I used a very fine paint brush and did a 1mm border around the glass with some white primer. When this was dry I used a black pen to create an edge either side of the white to mimic the rubber surround. This is long- winded even for me, but I hope that explains it Jan! Brilliant! Will do the sharpie method when I get this far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Janval said: Brilliant! Will do the sharpie method when I get this far! I do find it works well, my biggest problem is applying a fine enough bead of glue around the outside of the window without getting it all over the glass! I would be interested to hear what other people use for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm434 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, 844john said: Just a quick pic of the revised window rubbers with the white insert instead of all black. Door mirrors made, just to add along with the back window and plough light, then she's ready for work excellent , I will be round for it in the morning , I'm sure to find something for her to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, dm434 said: excellent , I will be round for it in the morning , I'm sure to find something for her to do Better leave it for another couple of days until I get the back window on David, it's not the weather for a draughty cab at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm434 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, 844john said: Better leave it for another couple of days until I get the back window on David, it's not the weather for a draughty cab at the moment! I was raised in a 434 with a Duncan cab that had no back window either so no probs there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, dm434 said: I was raised in a 434 with a Duncan cab that had no back window either so no probs there That was posh David, ours didn't even have a cab! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dm434 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 58 minutes ago, 844john said: That was posh David, ours didn't even have a cab! haha nowt posh about that noisy drafty cab , saying that it was better than the Duncan cab on the 465 Nuffield , it had a wooden sliding door n wasn't a safety cab as it had a roll bar inside it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH885XLMAN Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wow she does look the part like the blanking up the white boarders on the window frames u could do an article job by job with all the measurements avalable and tecniques if i cant have one il have to have a go at msking one but it would never look as good as that 475 of yours john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, IH885XLMAN said: Wow she does look the part like the blanking up the white boarders on the window frames u could do an article job by job with all the measurements avalable and tecniques if i cant have one il have to have a go at msking one but it would never look as good as that 475 of yours john Thanks Nigel, never mind an article, I think I could write a book the amount of work that's gone into this! Hopefully my next build will be quicker, just started a Case IH 885 L cab, so a few similarities in the build of the cab which should speed things up a little! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valley Axe Man Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 She's looking stunning John, Well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Valley Axe Man said: She's looking stunning John, Well done Thanks Paul, the end is in sight now, on to the next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 28/01/2018 at 5:46 PM, 844john said: I do find it works well, my biggest problem is applying a fine enough bead of glue around the outside of the window without getting it all over the glass! I would be interested to hear what other people use for this? PVA glue can be used as an alternative for sticking in your glazing, excess can be wiped off with a damp cloth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, super6 said: PVA glue can be used as an alternative for sticking in your glazing, excess can be wiped off with a damp cloth Thanks Paul, I haven't tried PVA , I did try what I think was called "cockpit" glue which seemed similar but I found that it took quite a while before it held the glazing in place, but then that's probably me being impatient! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_emmons Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 It is looking amazing with the updated painting John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 48 minutes ago, 844john said: Thanks Paul, I haven't tried PVA , I did try what I think was called "cockpit" glue which seemed similar but I found that it took quite a while before it held the glazing in place, but then that's probably me being impatient! This "might" be just the thing for glazing,I have a tube,as yet untried,but should not "burn" clear plastic,as it only cures useing the UH light, http://www.5secondfix.com/ Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, b_emmons said: It is looking amazing with the updated painting John Thank you Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844john Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, catkom3 said: This "might" be just the thing for glazing,I have a tube,as yet untried,but should not "burn" clear plastic,as it only cures useing the UH light, http://www.5secondfix.com/ Regards Joe. Now that looks nifty Joe, and a bit less claggy than UHU that I've had to resort to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Oh no,UHU,horrible stuff,this also should be good for glazing as it's non fogging,odourless, http://www.shop4glue.com/thick-foam-safe-odourless-cyano-superglue-adhesive-non-fogging-non-blooming-polystyrene-depron-007c-97-p.asp Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Farm Models Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I’m dieing here for more pics !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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