robbo Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 A new show in Holland has been announced that is to take place at Hardenberg, around 25 minutes east of Zwolle, scheduled for 2 days and booked for the weekend of 11th and 12th December. There seems to be limited information at the moment but if I hear anything else I will post updates 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Hollander Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Follow Facebook page miniaturenbeurs 2021 hardenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 2.05 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 who is going to that show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Hollander Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 bit to close to xmas for me and getting leave from work, will this be its normal dates from now? or will it be earlier like zwolle was in early november Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 46 minutes ago, Tractorman810 said: bit to close to xmas for me and getting leave from work, will this be its normal dates from now? or will it be earlier like zwolle was in early november Don't think that this is a replacement for Zwolle Sean, rather an extra. Still hoping that the LCN club get something arranged for 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 2.05 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 41 minuten geleden, robbo zei: Don't think that this is a replacement for Zwolle Sean, rather an extra. Still hoping that the LCN club get something arranged for 2022 No this show is not the replacement for Zwolle. The date for next year in zwolle is a big question 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, simon 2.05 said: No this show is not the replacement for Zwolle. The date for next year in zwolle is a big question 🤔 and maybe the location as well. sadly the new ones just within our xmas leave booking limit dates. so getting time is harder than normal . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon 2.05 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minuut geleden, Tractorman810 zei: and maybe the location as well. sadly the new ones just within our xmas leave booking limit dates. so getting time is harder than normal . Maybe next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/4/2021 at 7:32 PM, simon 2.05 said: Maybe next year Possibly, if the LCN show does not happen then I think I will make the trip to this one, unfortunately I won't be able to do both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udimore Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Real shame that Brexit has caused the customs before and after stock list and paying duty on any sales and purchases as we would of gone for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, Udimore said: Real shame that Brexit has caused the customs before and after stock list and paying duty on any sales and purchases as we would of gone for sure. has anyone figured out what happens if we go and buy stuff as visitors yet? checks ect on the way back . could be an expensive shock otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete132 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Well if it’s anything like buying Uk goods when your in the EU it will be a complete disaster. I’m sure the Uk traders are seeing a big drop in purchases from Ireland & EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger82 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 30 minutes ago, Pete132 said: Well if it’s anything like buying Uk goods when your in the EU it will be a complete disaster. I’m sure the Uk traders are seeing a big drop in purchases from Ireland & EU. I have bought stuff from UK and all OK no tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udimore Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 hours ago, Tractorman810 said: has anyone figured out what happens if we go and buy stuff as visitors yet? checks ect on the way back . could be an expensive shock otherwise I have had 3 lovely discussions with our government hotline on this and Apparantely if you purchase anything you need a receipt for it and have to pay the UK import tax when you arrive back at UK border control. I did argue that how they can prooooove that you did not take it with you in the first place to which the reply was you would have to declare any contents of your vehicle when travelling like as a trader before and after lists of items and values. Models will work out expensive. although some will risk it I am sure with the hope of not being pulled over at border control 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/32 farmer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Udimore said: I have had 3 lovely discussions with our government hotline on this and Apparantely if you purchase anything you need a receipt for it and have to pay the UK import tax when you arrive back at UK border control. I did argue that how they can prooooove that you did not take it with you in the first place to which the reply was you would have to declare any contents of your vehicle when travelling like as a trader before and after lists of items and values. Models will work out expensive. although some will risk it I am sure with the hope of not being pulled over at border control tell you wot baz well stick it all on dinghies and it will be escorted to dungeness with no problems and delivered to the door with no charge hahahahah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Udimore said: I have had 3 lovely discussions with our government hotline on this and Apparantely if you purchase anything you need a receipt for it and have to pay the UK import tax when you arrive back at UK border control. I did argue that how they can prooooove that you did not take it with you in the first place to which the reply was you would have to declare any contents of your vehicle when travelling like as a trader before and after lists of items and values. Models will work out expensive. although some will risk it I am sure with the hope of not being pulled over at border control mm kind of hard when you buy un boxed stuff, like i do for variations, boxed is a problem then . i dont take stuff to sell like that, so outs not a prob, coming back i recon its a wing it and see ,cant honestly see any one at Zwolle, doing receipts with vat removed ect . in fact i don’t think i have ever seen a receipt given out there in any visit. going to be an intresting first trip over ,prob next year , if it goes ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 We're driving over to the Alps mid December, I will report back on what the customs process is like then. There's normally some nice Pisten Bully snow groomer models available out there so we'll see if they pick up on them on the way back. Obviously a car packed like Mr Softie is going to attract more attention than one with a couple of models in the boot! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Brian's car, don't see why that should attract any attention, Regards Joe. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodiestractor Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 8:56 PM, Tractorman810 said: mm kind of hard when you buy un boxed stuff, like i do for variations, boxed is a problem then . i dont take stuff to sell like that, so outs not a prob, coming back i recon its a wing it and see ,cant honestly see any one at Zwolle, doing receipts with vat removed ect . in fact i don’t think i have ever seen a receipt given out there in any visit. going to be an intresting first trip over ,prob next year , if it goes ahead In my case I thought about saying I am just going to swop brochures as they do that in Zwolle, but they may get stroppy about that even. or I have thought about saying it's a collection and I'm taking it for someone to consider buying, whatever it will probably be a pain in the arse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, Goodiestractor said: In my case I thought about saying I am just going to swop brochures as they do that in Zwolle, but they may get stroppy about that even. or I have thought about saying it's a collection and I'm taking it for someone to consider buying, whatever it will probably be a pain in the arse. exactly mate, kind of makes you wonder if its really worth going even as a visitor, pointless going and not buying anything . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodiestractor Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 10:21 PM, Stabliofarmer said: We're driving over to the Alps mid December, I will report back on what the customs process is like then. There's normally some nice Pisten Bully snow groomer models available out there so we'll see if they pick up on them on the way back. Obviously a car packed like Mr Softie is going to attract more attention than one with a couple of models in the boot! Good luck James please keep us all posted with your trip developments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 10:21 PM, Stabliofarmer said: We're driving over to the Alps mid December, I will report back on what the customs process is like then. There's normally some nice Pisten Bully snow groomer models available out there so we'll see if they pick up on them on the way back. Obviously a car packed like Mr Softie is going to attract more attention than one with a couple of models in the boot! prob is we go with mr laley ,and he will pack mikes car near as mr softie style with his buys normally. thats why we make him sit in the back,that, and hes further away from the jelly babies 😆😆 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 In 2021 the Hardenberg show was held at the beginning of December however, they have announced a date for 2022 of 16th and 17th April. That makes me wonder if they have moved it to spring to avoid a conflict with the LCN Club show, (Zwolle), that is normally the third weekend in November. Are any of our Dutch members able to confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Hollander Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) I´m a member of the Facebook group. From what I read on it I understand they want to organise a show twice per year. No mention of the LCN show in November. It looks as if they might compete against the LCN show when that comes on again. Don´t know what the plans are for the LCN show as they´re going to demolish the buildings in Zwolle in I believe 2023. Hardenberg would be a logical alternative for relocating. I hope they´re not going to compete. That would harm the quality of the shows and the hobby in my opinion. Edited January 15, 2022 by New Hollander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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