ploughmaster

You must have been reading a different thread 

The majority of the lists here contain some Britains, but I think the overwhelming impression is that most of those who have posted are going for more expensive models, rather than toys - there isn't much Siku mentioned either (apart from their more highly detailed i.e. expensive items.

Perhaps those who bought Britains have chosen not to post here 

whats the story with the red countys then??? were they sold to a contractor or just to comemorate something?? have never seen much about them before

as for dave p doing one, oh yes, maybe the ftf precision for this year??

Bensons assembled about 150 tractors after moving production to Knighton, most of which were finished in the usual County/Ford Tractor Blue.  Only a very few were finished in Bensons red colour scheme right at the end of production.

I'd agree with the FTF model suggestion.

well the 40 series was not sold at £56000

most of the marshals returned to the seller as well.

will list some more when i find the catalogue

By the way the auctioneer was pushing very hard at the bidding, I got the impression that a lot of the tractors were struggling to reach their reserve.

'Perkins' powered?

I may be wrong, but I am fairly sure that the 1184 had a Ford engine. A small number were produced (prior to Benson's ownership) for certain export markets with a Perkins engine (mainly South Africa), but they were designated 1164.  Bensons only made a handful in red right at the end (after production moved to Knighton).

Looking forward to the rest of the pics Andy.  Hope you got some of the two yellow machines of relevence to we Britains collectors 

I'm keeping my eyes peeled for the even more uncommon r&y bobs that have the original "Lely" decal (as noted elsewhere on the forum, probably factory leftovers from the old blue and red haybob)

The original blue and red Lely Snipe had the Lely logo printed in red on a white label.

The one on some of the later re-issue red and yellow ones was a red label with the Lely logo in white or yellow (I can't remember which without searching mine out ), so they weren't leftovers.

Malcolm Pegram is a plumber by trade I believe, he has produced some quite good 1:16 models over several years and he also has done some conversions of Chad Valley E27 and DDN Majors, mainly changing the rear wheels from rubbers to steel spud wheels, the last time I saw him with a stall was 3 years ago at Toytrack, the last one at Farmer Giles' and I think he was at the first Wincanton one.

He had a table at Spalding last week - The Massey Harris in ertleriks original post was standing on it!  Lord F also took a pic of it, although the man himself appears to have been AWOL at the time:

As for what he has done in the past, I am not sure, but his most recent employment has been as General Farmworker, and before that 360 driver and Lorry (Low Loader) Driver.

I think the International is one by Malc's Models (Malcolm Pegram).

There is brief footage of a couple of the late model trailed Mathers on this youtube vid (about 7 mins in)

see if britains listened to me in 80s when i used to write to "black horse lane"

i suggested then to do IHs tractors but never got a reply

I think I may have made a similar request in the 70's (574/674),  but of course, at that time Ertl already had the exclusive IH and JD licences tied down securely.  The possibilities of IH and JD models only came about when Ertl took over.

Not surprised they didn't reply; they apparently used to get over 200 letters a week.

Interesting looking tool 

Quick Google found the Sennebogen website: http://sennebogen.com/hp7856/SENNEBOGEN-NEWS-Green-Line-Recycling-and-Material-handling.htm

There is a pdf brochure for that machine - look under 'downloads/green line' in the left side menu 

Has anyone else noticed the Spalding show model on E bay already, Chaperjays, is that anyone on here? Be interesting to see how it goes, not selling mine though.

It has now got bid to more than G&M are offering them for 

I noticed two more have appeared on ebay this evening (Tuesday for those reading this later on  )  One of the sellers is being a bit naughty by stating "WEATHERED TO A VERY HIGH STANDARD BY BRITIANS", when of course it isn't    They can't spell either  \

I'm pretty sure that one was captioned as a 956, and the other as a 1056 

i ment to say we also had the prototype pictures of the forth coming case 1056 and 956 there to

Those looked very promising, even at this early stage, I will look forward to them 

It appeared the 956 will be an International, and the 1056 will be the later CaseInternational version with the later nose, so lots of future possibilities for both Britains and the conversion enthusiasts  .

Nice finds there, especialy the blue Claas trailer (from Super Value Pack 5004 issued in 1989) and the blue and white manure spreader from set 9636 Ford New Holland Gift Set which was only around in 1989  and 1990.  A few manure spreaders did come out individually boxed (I have one bought in a shop in Gainsborough), and the blue cultivator probablly did too, but I have never come across one. 

The Ford New Holland Set has been hard to find since its deletion (along with the Deutz-Fahr Sets), but I suspect I considerable number were put into peoples collections at the time because of the colour variations, and there are probably more of those sets still in existence than other sets which only contained the standard coloured models.

Don't suffer under the delusion that Messers Willes and Barnes are proposing this for the good of UK dairying!!  It is purely to line their own pockets, and as milk imported from outside the UK is already mostly produced cheaper than UK milk, the lower expected production costs of Nocton Dairies means it is likely to replace existing UK production rather than replace imported milk. With the expected greater efficiency and higher than average expected milk yield, 8100 cows at Nocton will have a major negative impact on the number of cows elsewhere in Britain - possibly displacing as many as 10 000 cows at the less efficient end of the industry.

The animals will be housed for 100% of their lactation, and will only be turned out to grass when they are dry.  The proposal is to feed them principally on lucerne, and bed them on sand which will cleaned and re-used, with the resulting slurry being processed through an anaerobic digestion plant and the effluent piped away for distribution on neighbouring farmland (they say they have access to around 24,000 acres nearby).

Whilst livestock are relatively sparse round here, there are at least a couple of smaller dairy farms within a few miles of Nocton, and a number of farms with beef, sheep or pig enterprises.  Nocton Dairies will not therefore, be totally isolated in an animal/disease free zone, and in any case (as has already been suggested) the thought of over 8000 cows living within a site only a few hundred yards across doesn't bear thinking about should F&M or similar strike  \

If anyone is interested Nocton Dairies website can be found here: http://noctondairies.co.uk/

and if you have the odd couple of days( ) to look through the planning application itself and related supporting documents, responses etc, all is available to view on NKDC planning portal: http://planningonline.n-kesteven.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=KUSYLLLLX0000.  Be warned though, there are around 1500 documents including 3rd party comments (mainly NIMBY/Treehugger type objections) and some of them take an eternity to download.  The actual plans and the main supporting documents are worth looking at though. 

Whether it will be approved or not, I don't know, but some aspects (particularly the early submissions and the Environmental Plan) seem to have drawn criticism from the consultants that have been engaged by NKDC. Some aspects of the plan come across to me as somewhat naive.

There is no legal obligation for manufacturers to fit belts to tractors (even where they are fitted with ROPS).  However, under PUWER there is a requirement for all machines to be fitted with belts where there is the risk of being crushed between the machine and the ground in an overturn.

HSE official advice here: http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/ais37.pdf

You should do some old ICI fertilizer bags, that way they would be in keeping with the Ford 7000 which is so clean the scene looks like a 1970's farm.

ICI Dumpy bags FTW 

http://www.agrimanuals.com/ici-dumpy-bags-brochure-4483-p.asp

You've made a nice job of them Ford 4000.  It's a shame Britains didn't do similar!

There was a feature article on registering/re-registering vintage tractors in the July 2009 issue of Classic Tractor which is worth reading if you have it.

If you are lucky, the logbook/V5 and the number plate have simply got lost recently and DVLA will have a record of the machine. If it has never been registered, or has not been licenced since before 1983, it will need a bit more work.

You will need to contact either the tractor club relating to the make, or an authorised all makes specialist such as the aforementioned Cornish Tractor Club, because DVLA will require an expert (authorised by them) to provide documentary evidence to tie the chassis number to the date of manufacture before they can issue an age related number for the tractor.

It looks pretty genuine to me. That Britains yellow paint always looks thin on the engines and edges of the castings; it is almost translucent, and it is very difficult to imitate (repaints are usually pretty obvious).

Shame it's missing the cab glazing, steering wheel clips, spade/steering handle and cotton.  Difficult to know where it will go bidwise; the values of older Britains have fallen drastically in the last few months, but when something genuinely rare and seldom seen is offered it still seems to attract very strong money. My guess is towards four figures, but who knows  \

Best of luck Britain's with the 7480,that's a hard act to follow,

£16 vs £35 

That looks excellent!! 

I'm not sure if it was closely based on actual make - I think it was based on the prototype that Warner Hall built for them from the chassis of the existing 9568 animal trailer (which wasn't a tipper) which he based loosely on a Warwick.

So there is  . 

Interesting that they both have orange tipping levers too.  My blue early decal one has an orange lever, but I also have a blue one with the 'Tipping Trailer' deal which also has an orange lever.

I'll go with Beef Shorthorn too - the Ayrshire has distinct brown and white patches (bit like a brown and white Friesian to look at - very like the brown and white Britains cattle).

The other looks a bit like a Lincoln Red to me.

Nice pictures Super 6  .  You don't see many Moto-carts about now, and that one looks to be in tip-top condition.  Nice to see a Muir Hill that still has its standard front weights - most seem to have lost them to the scrapman 

I reckon that F11 has been on its side to bend the frame to that extent - they are a pretty strong loader so its had more than a slight bump.

Cotil crane tractor

Supplied by Colchester Tractors. Did they build them as well?

Colchester Tractors put the cranes on the tractors, but they didn't build the actual crane itself.  As well as Lemken equipment, their subsidiary, Colchester Tillage, were importers of Tico cranes (see walterderwents earlier post), and they started building self propelled cranes by mounting them on Ford tractors in the 60's.  They fitted some larger capacity cranes on to a few County tractors too. The name came from simply abbreviating the company name to 'Cotil'.

wonder if i bought a worn out powerharrow and jus didn't put the shaft on? 

Most farms used to have power harrows without the power.  They were called a straight tooth/zig-zag harrow   

Most folk have (misguidedly in my opinion) sent them for scrap.