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  1. Big-time guess here BGU, if the Longbow thingy was on a dealership yard over here, I'd assume it was a very large lawn sweeper for picking up grass clippings for, say, golf courses or "big houses" you know, places open to the public. As for the topper thing, that would be my guess too. Looks like it has a 3pt hitch though, can't understand that, usually if they have an engine, it's 'cos they're being pulled by an ATV.

    Great pictures by the way  :)

  2. hey TOG

    That tractor is ridiculously 70's, I like the way the bonnet is all curvy and the cab all angles - its like the cab and bonnet designers met and decided on one common angle to use, then never saw each other again, strangely though i like it, must be the sticky out wheels  :)

    Few questions  ;D

    What are the interior conditions like?

    How much does something like that cost?

    and a general Q - are the heaters on your tractors standard? looks quite cold!

    Mucho mucho 70s IHP  ;D You either like it or you don't eh? ;)

    Inside, it's what you'd expect, a palace compared to what was available before ie; bolt-on cabs and wrapped over the bonnet cabs or a garden shed compared to tractors from the '90s. Its a bu**er to get into and out of because the door doesn't really open wide enough. Also, the top half of the door slopes inwards and tapers towards the top too. Just not fun but when it was built, the designers would be thinking that the operator would be getting in and staying there for a day's cultivating not piling in and out cutting net/string off hay bales then jumping back on. The cab is tall and narrow so not fun if the ground is rough, you have to watch that your head doesn't end up bouncing off the side windows  ;)

    The steering wheel tilts and telescopes, it would be impossible to get in and out if it didn't. The range and powershift/reverse levers are conveniently to hand at the front of the right side console and an owner-installed joystick is situated above them. There is also a foot throttle which is a bit of a surprise in a tractor that big and that old. Visibility is, well, let's say you can see out and leave it at that ;)

    All in all, the cab is okay from a user's point of view but a bit small when compared to its peers of the day. This one has been looked after and all the sound insulation, switches and knobs for levers are all there. Let's say it'll do but I wouldn't want to spend all day in 'er. :) Compare it to JD's Soundgard cab which came out at about the same time  ::)

    We paid about 4000 pounds for Alice complete with front end loader, bucket, grapple and bale spear (which are quick-attatch) Considering the condition, we're happy with that. It may have been 500-750 cheaper if it had been in worse condition and at a consignment auction but those tend to come back to bite you later. A few people have commented that the loader is worth as much as the tractor, they might not be wrong........

    Tractor heaters are standard. Almost everything from the mid '70s on is advertised as C,A,H,R  Cab, Air Conditioning, Heater, Radio. They are the same heater as the rest of the world gets, as far as I know. I know of one or two lads who have put auxilliary heaters in cabs, usually from old school buses. Air cooled Deutz tractors weren't too popular as winter feeding tractors because their cab heaters weren't too efficient when it got quite cold, say, -20 or colder.

    Hope this is informative  :)

  3. We used to have a dairy and beef operation until about 4 years ago, now its all beef. We have around 185 cows calving April/May, we wean the calves in November and feed them 'till the following April/May when they are marketed at auction. We have 1280 acres for hay, pasture and a little bit of cereal land.

    We also do a bit of contracting work, mainly haying and round bale silage and we do a bit of livestock haulage too. We also sell some hay and straw but I try to avoid doing that, I'd prefer to feed it to my own livestock.

  4. I spent $200 on a new compressor for our electric air compressor this weekend, thought it would be better than scrapping the whole thing since I'd just bought a new electric motor for it last autumn ($250). Got 'er all put together this afternoon, fired 'er up and THE BL**DY TANK IS RUSTED OUT!!!! >:( >:(>:(

    Now I have to shell out another $300-$400 for a tank ::)

    You know you're in trouble when you have to fix the tools before you can fix the equipment  ;)

  5. Is that the same George Mutch that does the ploughing matches with a Fordson N ?

    My father-in-law had a D2 with a dozer blade on it for years but he sold it at his farm sale which was a couple of years before I started chasing his daughter  ;) would have made a nice dowry ;D

    I was at a farm sale in '04 and a nice looking D2 sold for 5000 pounds.

  6. 4760 please explain ???

    I take it it is like the 4755 seen on this side of the Atlantic ;)

    John Deere 4760.

    Years produced; 1991-1994

    Engine; 6 CYL. 7.6L Turbo.

    Horsepower; 175 PTO.

    That's all I can tell you man  ;)    All data courtesy of www.tractordata.com

  7. :o Nice pics Adam.... I just love that MH444.... what a beauty.... looks like the young lady has picked the best tractor in the line to sit on  ;)

    She was actually driving that one Marky. For some reason Dad kept an eye on her progress as we passed by  ;) he said she was hooking in on to a small set of harrows. The ground looked a bit soft so I suppose she was trying to dry the top out.

  8. Stuff hardly rusts out here Bill. I'd think you'd be pretty surprised at the condition of those tractors if you could see them up close and personal.

    We have a dung spreader that's over 10 years old. We did some pretty major repairs to it last autumn and didn't need to cut any bolts or use any type of looosening agent at all. Rust is one thing I don't miss about Britain.

  9. that mx180 looks decidedly odd as a 2wd, & loving the case 2290, thanks tog ,great pics, why no deutz ?

    There are no pictures of a Deutz because there wasn't one to photograph. The dealer isn't pushing them because he has had, let's say, a "philosophical disagreement" with Head Office. IE: he thinks they're screwing him around. Direct quote from him on the situation....."good tractors but the people are jerks"  :'(

    There are very few of the Agrotron series around. I'd say that when Deutz, under the SDF ownership came back to Canada, it would be around the time of the last of the Agrotron MK 2 series. In the time since, they've only managed to establish 2 or 3 dealerships in Manitoba and Saskatchewan and maybe 3 or 4 in Alberta. Most of those are "Mom and Pop" operations. To me, ther is a big oportunity being missed.

    I have never seen a Deutz Agrotron on a farm in western Canada except for our own one. Almost everyone who sees it and doesn't know us, thinks we imported it.

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