Pingu

On 8/28/2022 at 7:39 AM, phil phoenix said:

The obvious model they should make is the new John Deere 6R 185  as it will very quickly become the biggest selling real size JD.

Wiking will probably make a Fendt 728 even though no farmers will take delivery of one until autumn 2023.

And given how the world is spinning into total chaos the 728 will possibly never see the light of day anyway!

Just out of curiosity what makes you think 728 may not appear? I think in current climate and moving forward it’s perfect for farms consolidating and less staff replacing 2 with one especially (lower cultivations as well) with how rubbish 828’s are I know my local dealer not many miles over the border from you or me had presold 10 already pre launch and people seen how little John Deere have done to new 6R for the price rise there not happy and don’t get me started with the abortion is there dealers in UK and Europe 

On 2/27/2021 at 7:18 PM, phil phoenix said:

So a Fendt 730 is coming?   Is that why TNS have a yard full of 828s (literally) that no one wants, the 800 has become a white elephant so bypass them with a higher hp 700 which no doubt will be more JD6R size to house the extra beef.

By all accounts yes the unknown bit is if will fit variogrip, but there will be a 727 and a 730 on a larger chassis with 724 being updated bonnet etc and MAN engine. The 800 series is very unreliable by all accounts I don’t know any on original engine’s locally

On 2/23/2021 at 6:23 PM, phil phoenix said:

Yes Phill, It was more in hope than expectation that I hope we can avoid a JD avalanche of 8RXs, and please dont get me wrong I think the 8RX is fabulous looking piece of kit. However I always get a bit annoyed when one brand (Or model) lords it over the rest of the pack.  Doesnt seem fair when CASE & NH have a really good product in the Rowtrac or indeed the Claas version or the smart Fendt Challenger, and they all get ignored.  This JD situation takes me back to the mid 90s when Ford first released the 70 series, for 6 months they sold like hot cakes, everyone had to have one and then "Wallop" the JD 8400 landed!!  And within 3 years you would have been hard pressed to find a 70 series on most of the local farms as they all got traded for a JD 8000 Series.

I noticed Gs have bought an RX 370 to replace a CAT E series (Your farm Phill??)which wasnt unexpected, however they also changed the Quad 620 for the Deere 9RXversion which seems very unfair.  The 620 had done 5000 hours in 2 years with excellent back up from Pecks following on from a 2015 620 that had done over 7000hrs and the thanks the dealer gets is its machine being replaced by a 9620RX which im reliably informed aint as good as the CASE!!  Watch the Mike Mitchell video review of his tractor fleet in which there are 4 x 9RX and one Quad 620 and he tells it straight "Ole Red is the better tractor"!  And thats before the 2021 Quadtrac with all its smart upgrades lands on the market.  I suspect JD will upgrade the 9RX in response before years end and are probably sharpening their pencil to undercut all the competition with the existing machine knowing that once a farm goes green it seldom changes back

The one good point is that those "E" Series Challengers are a bugger too shift 2nd hand as TNS have discovered, Deere dealers might not be so keen for marketshare when they get stuck with a yard full of unwanted 2 track machines

Very fair point, no I manage a farm further towards the sea and changed a high hour B for it as even chandlers said avoid an E if you can. We went for a 410
 

I won’t bad mouth other brands but the CNH rowtrac have a horrendous reliability record with a neighbour swapping one for an RX at 2 years old and loosing 2/3rds it value as couldn’t cope with breakdowns and another neighbour says there E series Cat is more reliable!! So we didn’t even look that route, the Fendt twin trac was lovely but used value of twin track machines is going off a cliff as headlands are ruined by them and can’t work in wet. Claas well was awesome would happily run one. 
 

But I will confirm this farm won’t be all green the 3 Bavarians will stop that especially when 730 is released later in the year. On 9RX front I agree I don’t get the fuss I worked with 3 in previous life and erm yer quad is far far nicer and more reliable just a certain dealer is erm interesting 

I’m sorry Phil there is nothing else in the RX category the rest are half tracks and poor in comparison in grip and turning so think the JD will start making ground we just bought one to replace a CAT and we are a Fendt farm we tried them all and the RX was a no brainier sadly the nearest was the axion but that will slip it’s track in the wet and still not as powerful in field for grip

Fantastic photos though 

I get that, I’ve been Fendt since my first tractor was a 818 which at 17 was unreal and they’ve stuck since, spec levels and now as a manager it’s all about weight there 3 ton lighter then the rest!  But we have blues in the fleet and Deere’s so not brand biased personally more dealer based. 

Farm not far from Wisbech at a well know farm previously owned by a super market/ I suppose banking firm.... 

What a fantastic thread!!! I grew up in the era of 6200-8200 MF’s and still love them to this day and learning to drive on a early T plate 8240 and still have a soft spot for them despite being a definite Fendt man now just to annoy you haha! 

Then second reason is my other half is a farmers daughter from Newmarket/Haverhill area with her dad working for same farm his whole career in ag around the area plus her family farm backing onto vestys so fantastic to see the history of the area and picture the kit in there stories!  And see some from pics from the fens as now helping manage a fen farm so it’s just a thank you from me for posting 

I'm part of it because I'm covering well over 30k acres a year spraying so for farm assurance I'm part of. It is a nice refresher now and again but some of the things that are suggested on course are rubbish and been invented by someone behind a desk and not someone with thousand's of acres to clear in a short window. But if learning the corses are good.

We farm from near gt bardfield (580+ is here) to near Sudbury where 480 evo is and I'm near Braintree in cat so were well spread ha ha!, nah we haven't moved for 2 days either and isn't looking good this week either

Weve been going since last tues done about 500 acres of rape and 100 acres of barley not great going with 2 combines but been very stop start due to weather etc but the 580+ is going well and 480 evo is finding its feet now gremlins are being sorted. I will start on our cat tomo turning rape stumbles brown

Was a terrible story with the old manager and it's amazing how many people we met that knew him well so must be sorely missed, but it's amazing how small a world it is.

That most certainly is Chris we've farmed that for a couple of years now having turned it around! Got park hall and Great Lodge there all being the same farm

Nope I work for Bradshaws, been totaling up the areas for people locally and it's amazing how many are the 3k mark and the differences in kit

a lot of big kit around us pingu, peter fairs farms just up the road from us, he comes from great tey. is this who you mean?

Yup, and as far as I can gather were bigger now then philpots individual farms (not the whole family as a whole though) but there's a few rumors spreading at the moment with them

hello andy, our ernest doe's depot is at braintree, about 4 miles from the farm. with philpots on your patch you must have some nice big kit to gaze at!!

Some bigger kit just outside of braintree chris

Fantastic pics always good looking at times before i was farming full time

Great photos from an era where you could easily jump into a tractor and go off and do your work with the emphasis on driver skill, rather than press this button, hold that lever forward set up the gps etc, good to see tractors actually working for a living rather than you see these days such as 150hp £30000 - £50000 tractors pulling cambridge rolls or dragging a trailer around.

Bring on more pics please

Think that's a little unjustified still a lot skill and new skills involved in it setting kit up adapting to conditions. And I'd like to see anything smaller then 150hp pull 12.5m rolls and 18ton trailer of wheat

hello pingu, where are you in essex? i am in finchingfield on the essex/suffolk border.are you in this part of county or down south with the dagenham daves!!

I'm from and based just outside Colchester but farm from Gt Barfield to just outside Sudbury so from fair bit of the county :laugh:

Some fantastic points on here with everything, going smaller is a good way to get a broad range of skills. But often good large units will let you spread out your skills. For example I'm on 4000 acre farm now you do have set roles with mine covering all spraying and cultivation's in summer. But coming up to 3 years in the job I've done a bit of most things drilling combining etc. I came here straight from college (left college early to get the job but did all my work so still passed I'm only 22) But be prepared to work very hard in mean time there is only 2 of us employed here so during growing season work is intense with 100hr weeks common long before harvest and after. But be prepared to travel for the right job I'm well over 100 miles from home and 180+ from college. But now love the East and really would question moving away. My advice is never get a bad name with any employer as news travels fast, even if there rubbish employers they may still have a lot of local friends to you. But be prepared to travel if right job comes up not just 20 miles think 100+ if your prepared to. But you never stop learning, I've still got a lot to learn and still do everyday

What size plough? If designed for capacity of a 69 both shouldn't have any problems with a 5 furrow if your using a normal JD toplink think you'll find a hydraulic top link one stronger. But you have to be covering serious acres for it to be worth the investment and in my experience and view point any less then 6 furrows your headlands should be neat enough without hydraulic top link unless your match ploughing

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Thank you for that one tris  ;D

But at the moment got a MF one in the kitchen and tempted to put the FHM one in my sprayer 

That's an unforgieveable sin where I cart for every year Phil... Anyone allowing that to happen doesn't deserve to be sat in the tractor seat mate. anyone worth their salt can work out where they need to be.. plus with modern combines you get plenty of warning when the light comes on 

It is here with us putting 3350 acres through a 580+ but its an issue middle of the season we keep having of keeping drivers on the ball all season.  Lost count amount times me (I have been driving down a field cultivating with all my lights blazing and beeping horn to get there attention and turn there CB and still not noticing..) and main combine driver and bosses were yelling down CB at carters to get shifting rather then reading a paper really frustrating when there only in field 10 mins > Its at the stage were strongly looking at a 30 ton chaser

Well i havent ever got a combine in a field i only moved a combine in a yard i think it was a NH1530 or 1540 not even sure if thats the right model number all i know it was a old combine with no cab and it had a 10ft or 12ft table on it.

but i would love to get on a big combine for a day  i think it looks very relaxing kind of job well it looks relaxing

Very much depends on your carters and your workload.  60+tph going off the field you need lads that can think for themselves nothing more frustrating then being sat there with 100% tank and a trailer driver at wrong end the field   But do recommend it to anyone I would love to spend more then few hours or day or 2 a season on one rather then chasing with a cultivator  ;D

Looks a fantastic model a definite must have as drive a 865 (A) for a living, now just need to find a 6m topdown and I'm getting there

The gruesome twosome at work, the 6810 and 6910

The 6810 currently has no injector pump on it and the front left hub seal has given out while its been standing there depositing the hub oil all over the wheel and floor, this is after it just came back from the dealers having had the rear hitch rebuilt and another injector pump leak fixed. The 6910 crank seal gave out and the same time and as can be seen on here elsewwhere I've just done it, unfortunately as I was looking over it to check it was still dry this morning I noticed that the hub seal has now gone on that tractor as well so yet more work for me to do. Unfortunately unlike the 6810 where its the large easy to get at seal thats gone, on the 6910 both the large one and the small input shaft seal have gone so the whole swivel housing has to come off so while I'm at it I'll change all the bearings as it has 8000hrs on the clock...........getting to the point where we're saying what next although we know that the injector link pipes are leaking on the 6910 as well so guess that answers it

Suppose thats the trouble with running higher houred kit least there the reliable deere's gav so just age related not because there poorly built! :laugh:

I play with settings all the time on it but I'm sorry having had all others on demo and they all seemed to work better together with their engine management. Driving fendt 820 few weeks back and dropping revs back to 1450 at 50k (even with 16ton maize behind) but no matter settings on 75 lowest will drop with revs unlimited is 1850 you have to tell it to drop revs on limiter to 1500 if want it at that on road.  I admit at times I dont set it at most fuel economic at times because it is often working on its limits power wise especially when was on the plough so need as much torque and power it can give. I know the tanks are different sizes 330 odd on deere and 410 on NH but fuel used is metered from the tank. 

This is just my findings I had a 7930 last year and loved it and pulled better then this years T7060 and was good on fuel when being pushed.  If looking for cultivation's tractor or any heavy hard graft don't look at 7530! They are designed to be an all rounder not a heavy work horse hence why we find fuel use high.  But aside from that we dont mind extra fuel use (its small fry in what were using per day at that time of year) but it had constant niggles in first 2500hrs with it being back to dealers numerous times for large oil leaks etc which for most its hours its spent pulling sprayer, fert spreader, trailers and other general duties which its superb at

Nice to see claas holding it again.

Will add though the new Deere still hasn't caught up with the lexion the new s690i is a better match for the 760 but there getting there slowly