ploughmaster

These were also available in a brown/tan colour hard(brittle!) plastic.

I recall you mentioning them in a previous thread. 

The white ones are first known on a new lines list dated 1957, numbered 801 (from 1959 was changed to H1719).  Before that, what had previously been the lead version (586) was shown in the full Britains catalogue as '586 Plastic Fencing' from 1955 to 1959.  With the two overlapping, I have come to the conclusion that the brittle brown plastic version may have actually been the plastic 586. 

Like the six wheeler, have one of those in the E27N blue with skinny tread tyres and the float with wooden base. What type of float has this got?

Is that a post war cabbed one?  I haven't seen many of the lorries, but all the post war cabbed ones I have seen have the all metal tipper body (which is the same as used for the Two Wheeled Trailer (9550), which was first produced in 1949.  The Lorry was introduced the previous year, so perhaps they used the same moulding as the pre war one for the first year or so?

thats quite an impressive collection of lorries you are building up Andy 

the sad thing is most toy/ model shops are dying out, i say  because of on line shopping.

That why i buy most of my models from toy fairs/ shows.

When I was a lad in the 60's and 70's, you could find toys in almost every town; even most newsagents had a decent toy section. 

There haven't really been many 'proper' toy shops for many years.  Most of the old fashioned toy shops (that would stock the full range of the likes of Britains, Corgi, Dinky, Airfix, Hornby etc)  disappeared before the internet had much impact.  It was the growth of Toyfairs/Swapmeets in the 80's and early 90's which finished most of them off - sellers with no costs other than goods they sold and the table rent (and mostly not registered for VAT, and probably undeclared for income tax too).  It was impossible for a legitimate business to compete.

It is a case of 'Use them, or Lose Them'.  The ones that are left are struggling with toyfair competition, but now also have to compete with online sellers with much lower overheads, so they probably won't last much longer.  EBay play a big part in this,  although from what I see, eBay is an expensive way of buying farm toys.

I have to agree!  These are exactly the comments that sellers are posting on the eBay discussion boards.  The general impression is that they don't want to bother with small sellers selling low priced items: 99p + £2 postage = not much commission for ebay.  Make them offer free postage (that's nonsense anyway, what they mean is inclusive postage), and eBay gets 29p commision instead of 9p.

Last year they started offering no initial isting fee for items starting at 99p, but increased their FVF to 10%, which was con enough, but they are now spreading the 'free p&p' to cover more categories, so sellers can't start listings at 99p anymore.  That means ebay get their 29p in the example above, and get an initial listing fee as well.

They only seem interested in business sellers (who obviously bring in plenty of fees for them),  but a lot of small sellers do so to raise some cash to spend on eBay purchases, so cutting them out of the loop will cut the amount they buy from the big sellers - end up with a downward spiral.

  There is no listening to the client/customer and provide the service they want.  They seem to think they can impose their will on everyone regardless.  Unfortunately it seems to be the way that American businesses operate; eBay are not the only compoany with this attitude

The Case-IH 956XL is quite sought after, and often makes good money (I've seen them make £50+ at times).  If you mess it about it will almost certainly lose value.

The white interlocking fencing was first made when Britains first produced plastic farm figures in about 1958.  It was based on the Britains lead fencing, with two clips (later a third clip was added).  The brown hurdles were introduced in 1960.

Those look very good indeed; nice that the right hand one has the less common red Farmers Daughter .  They must have been kept very carefully to remain in such pristine condition after all this time.  Did it hurt the wallet badly?

Both sets ran from 1970 to 1975.

It was introduced during 2006.  It was first shown in the Autumn releases catalogue that year, before being shown in the 2007 full catalogue as a new introduction.

My variations list currently has 69 variations of Land Rovers on it.  That is individual model variants, and does not include those in sets unless they were variations only found in a set.  I still keep coming across new variations from time to time so I don't regard that as a complete list. (Andys brown LWB Series II with a white canopy being the most recent addition to the list!)

On top of that, I have on the list: 8 Freelanders, 12 Discoverys, and 1 Range Rover. 

If I then include the Ertl 18th scale models (which were never sold as Britains, but were nevertheless listed in the Britain catalogue),  there are a further 6 Freelanders, 2 Discoveries, 3 Range Rovers, and 2 Range Rover Sport, plus 3 US issue left hand drive LR3s.

106 variations and counting!!

The yellow trailer with the MF200 decal is a genuine, very rare variant, as reflected by its selling price. (though a bit OTT IMO)

The 7610 on halftracks was a test machine built by Silsoe Research in the early 90's, long before the current half track conversions were thought up. 

I used to drive a Chafer Tramliner SP similar to the one in your second post. It was a bit older though; it was mated to a 7600 power plus (which was a late model 7600 with some of the features of the 7610, the main one being the 10 series engine.  A wide boom combined with artic steer was a bit exciting at headlands!!

I think it's the usual case of them having measured up a real one, complete with all the repairs and modifications it has had over 40 years, without cross checking with original references (the same reason why the Britains Force 5000 has a white engine oil filter )

Thats right, it was proportional to engine speed - an hour on the clock was only an hour at a certain engine rpm (can't remember whether it was at rated engine speed, or at something like ipto revs). At lower revs, a clock hour would be longer than 60 minutes and at higher revs, it would be less than 60 minutes.

I would think that the tractor was probably new when the conversion was done.  I expect it would have started life as a 2wd (I would be surprised if they used a 4wd).

not seen one close up yet but I expect it has all the errors of the 1/16th...as the 1/43 ones do. I can see several from here!...

The sawn off mudguards, DIY ploughlamp bracket (what's all that about ?) and scale 1" diameter air intake for a start 

All the Valmet Logging tractors (and the trailers) came fitted with the winch, but the rope (cotton!) and the hook were packed seperately in the box within a small plastic bag for the buyer/child to fit themselves.  Obviously some collectors, who wish to keep the model absolutely mint, do not fit these (which is why a lot of pics from peoples collections do not show them). 

The winch fitted to the Land Rover 90 was similarly packed with the cotton and hook seperate.

its a shawne poole tipping trailer without top  ..early and rare goes with yello major or rare yellow 5000 good find you just need the metal top

Plastic top 

I can't tell from the pic, but are those the very rare grey plastic E27N style wheel centres or the more usual painted metal ones ?

Shame the skip is missing, but the chassis looks to be in excellent condition - that yellow paint is quite fragile and often chips very easily.

I must be missing it too 

I wouldn't expect you will get it for less than £20.  I think the suggested price is probably £24.99 (unless anyone knows different ?? - it might be more)

could tell the zetor was a fair weight as when it went up over the ramps the poor old landy's rear suspension reared right up was going to be a good workout for the 110 to get it back to their yard 

Hope he didn't get stopped by plod - I would think that Zetor would be heavier than the max load for the trailer.

Certainly in very nicely cared for condition, and the new one looks a handy little machine (co-operator looks a bit young to be legal though )

The old farmers round here years ago used to say,  "When you think your barley is ripe, go on a fortnights holiday".  It isn't usually as ripe as it looks.

Most folks seem to combine cereals well before they are properly ripe nowadays. 

Possibly the same story as the FW30, MF1505 and the precision JDs in 32nd - probably remaindered stock to clear them out of the warehouse. 

The 535 on super singles was a US dealer only issue, so would have been intended for only a limited period on sale anyway, and with the release of the prestige series 535 on duals is probably regarded as superceded (it was shown in this years US Ertl/CaseIH catalogue as 'available while stocks last' - perhaps they are lasting longer than they would have liked  )

It maybe near the end of production run \ but box wise it is an early one because it's in a safari style box and not the farm style box if you see what I'm saying think we need a box expert to say what date the boxes are from

No it is not an 'early' box - the LWB Land Rover boxes remained the same throughout the life of the model.  The Farm one had different colouring from the Safari and Military versions.  The one Andy has shown is the Safari/Military colouring, and coupled with the later registration and the use of the white canopy from the safari version, is an almost certain indication that this was produced at the end of the product life and was put together from remaining parts and boxes when the correct farm box and tilt had been used up.  There were probably a few bodies to use up, but it was not worthwhile moulding more tan canopies and printing more boxes for them. 

There is absolutely nothing to indicate this being an early box, as that colour and style of box was constant throughout the life of the LWB Series 2 Land Rover.

Although the website you linked to says

Britains Long Wheelbase Farm Land Rover, brown, No 9575, originally wrong packed in safari box

To recap - the registration MAC 68L could only have been used after August 1st 1972,  also there is plenty of evidence  that the brown colour was only used on the LWB Series 2 Land Rover in 1974 (its final year of production).  It was quite common for Britains to use up odd parts at the end of a production run or carry parts over to a new version (it is almost certainly why some Farmhand balers exist with the early red painted metal parts and the later white plastic parts).

Am I right in thinking that you can only grow OSR once every 5 years in a rotation??

In general that is so, for the above mentioned reasons.  However some farms are growing it much closer (one year in three), and there was one farmer in scotland who was featured in Farmers Weekly a couple of years ago who has been growing continuous rape on one field for about 18 years. 

I'm like you Nigel, I think it is a wrap around one in its transport mode.  (bit late now, I know  )

It does say on the website they was originally wrong packed in the safari box so you must have one of the first released farm version Andy

No, it will one from the very end of the production life.  The MAC 68L registration number would not have been used before August 1972 at the earliest, more probably it was used from late that year or early 1973.