ploughmaster

New Holland T6070. 

It came out for the US last year, and I think has been in dealers here.  It is just new to the toy catalogue. 

To that I would say "Not genuine Britains"!!!

Unless someone else knows different.

just look at it ,the old casting.im not impressed at all no mirrors ,pipework,or  the newer cab top.ive seen several conversions on here that put that to shame.just a childs toy .i think they will have to start a collectors series and up the detail

Some of you just refuse to get it don't you? 

A TOY is precisely what it is!

:o ....thought it would be half that price for what it is?

I thought it was a bit pricey too, but considering the colossal fall in the value of the £ over the last few months, I fear we will have to get used to some very big price increases on anything sourced from abroad. 

Is this the dealer exclusive price?  Most toys/models seem to be more expensive during their dealer release than they are when susequently available on general release. 

Remember that from that camera angle, perspective will make it look a little bigger than it is.  I would say that it is about the right size for the machine for use as a corn bucket.  

There isn't really much to see from the rest of the catalogue - the new MF 7465, JCB 7230, CaseIH Maxxum 125,  and Ford FW 60 are only shown as pics of the real thing.  

The rest of the 'new' items we have already seen better pics of on here (JD8440, JD5430i Sprayer) or we have probably already seen them 'in the flesh' - NH T6070 (which is only a redecal on the TS135), JD 7930 Radio Control and Combine Header Trailer.  

Bit off topic but the only other pages with new on them are in the 'Big Farm' two new trailer disc/cultivators, a Hitachi excavator, Bobcat (like the 32nd one below the JCB 416), a Chevy pick up and these:

any pictures knocking about with the new bucket?

Here's a scan from the catalogue:

sorry but its a prairy monster not a brit/EU tractor bloody ertl cast offs as far as im concerned

RC2 shuld look at britains history not ertls in this case

ertl did DBs and IHs better than this come oi

n and represent something from the UK/EU russia like a zetor crystal if not a leyland or DB /IH CASE

north uk did goiod makes aswell as south MF FORD

just not impressed in the least  > > > > > >

RC2 where in the right direction with the ford 5000/7000/76000/FTF 6600  but not a USA monster  > >

There is no need for that kind of attitude.  RC2 will make this kind of machine primarily for the American market.  Why the hell shouldn't it be offered to Europeans as well?  (There were quite a few FW60s in Europe and the UK when they were current - still are a few in fact).  There are plenty of folk over here who are very pleased to have them.  Nobody is forcing you to buy them. 

We know we shall have the MF 7465 ( ), and the T6070 (albeit only a redecalled TS135) and as the year progresses there will certainly be other introductions (perhaps including a vintage tractor ) of which we know nothing yet. 

Th one it shows in the catalogue is huge - probably double the size of the old one

That looks very good - maybe on par with the recent 'Toy Farmer' series tractors - does anyone know; will the FW 60 be this years Toy Farmer model?

Will it come with the bucket as well

It is shown in the catalogue with both bucket and buck rake, so it would appear so.  Hopefully they will make some extra attachments for it in the future. 

It certainly looks good from the pictures.

It was indeed intended for Turkey, the real thing being built in New Hollands factory there. 

G&M got hold of some at the time - late 2002.  Cat no 40580; sold at £22 each IIRC.

As far as the German "Model of the Year goes,  I seem to think that various model magazines in Germany take a vote from their readership each year prior to the (Nuremburg Toy Show). 

Britains won 'Toy of the Year 1978' with the MF 760 combine, but that was a UK award voted for by members of the National Association of Toy Retailers UK.

If i get it for the right price, i'll carefully take the decals off and keep them for you mate 

Wouldn't do you any good.  The TD95D decal is indeed a sticker, but underneath the sticker is the older type of TD95D decal tampo printed on the plastic .

Britains must have got the models prepares some time before New Holland wanted them and they had changed the decal type on the real thing, so Britains used a sticker with the new decal to cover up the original.

It was a very limited run, but you will have to wait for DPs new book to find out how many 

That's not the impression I get from this on the (English) front page:

...... we presented our first prototype to the company which gave us the license for the model.

They approved of the model, so now we can start with the production of the moulds of our model.

Wonder what it is?

nh 980 combine and cx 880 combine and also the case ih 8010 combine have been dropped from the range along with the jd 9880i combine perhaps and this is just a guess is that there 2nd release of models may contain some new combines , paulali

Thanks for clarifying the position re the MF.

I suspect we may see the CX rebadged as an 8080 or 8090.  The CR has already had its decal updated from CR960 to CR9060 and CR9080 in the States, so I would imagine we will see it as a CR9080.  Both these would be on a 6 month dealer exclusive though, so wouldn't feature in the main toy catalogue yet.

The JD 9880i has already been replaced by the S960i.

The Case-IH is a possibility for an updated moulding as the new Axial Flow range have slightly different panelwork. We shall have to keep fingers crossed and wait and see. 

Why the surprise that the T6070 is a rebadged TS135A?  The 6070 was issued in the States last March, so we have already seen it!

As said by others, the exchange rate of Pound vs Euro will add around athird to the price on top any any planned increase of the Euro price. 

The comment from simon to the effect that they were cheap for the level of detail is also significant.  A lot of people have wondered for some time how they can be making money at the old prices.  Maybe now they are well established in the marketplace, they are now moving to pricing more in balance with the cost and need for profit. 

As for the lower production costs in China now that raw material prices have slumped, I think I would be correct in saying that the biggest proportion of the costs are in transport (mainly AFTER the product arrives in Europe!). 

When will some of you get it into your heads - RC2/Ertl/Britains are toys,  UH are collectors models.  They are aimed at different markets. 

Britains will not match the detail of UH. Ever. Even if hell freezes.  Deal with it!!!!

i don't like the look of that at-all it looks completely ugly

That would make it a very accurate model then! 

but i guess we dont see that many of them over here, certainly not something i have seen,

They have only recently been launched in Europe.  No doubt we shall see a few appearing over the coming year.

I thought about it and came to the conclusion that a band of electric fencing threaded through the bottom of the hedge may well be the easiest and most cosmeticly pleasing method of keeping her at bay??

"threaded through the bottom of the hedge" - not really an option as it would be difficult to keep it from touching the hedge and shorting would it not.  Better put a foot or so to the side of the hedge.

Yes I am...

Of this loader tractor.........

Not often seen on one of those!!!  I wouldn't have thought it was the most suitable tractor to put a loader on TBH. 

For myself, I've never been a great fan of fore end loaders, but they do have their place. 

I spent a couple of years on a 5000 acre place that had two front loader tractors (Case MXM130) and no other handler (or indeed any other tractor for that matter [apart from one Quadtrac]), so got fairly used to them.  They turned out to be OK for most jobs (even loading wheat from over metal air ducts once I got used to them! ) 

I hope that they make it an accurate model and not just something else just sprayed up  \

What have they got that would 'spray up' to a 7480??  We are not in the 90's now! (Fendt with Ford casting and Deutz cab )

Siku already do make John Deere

They used to have a licence for Case-IH and New Holland, but have not produced anything in the last few years so maybe they don't have that anymore. 

I can't really see what your point is.  The recent items from Ertl/Britains have shown great improvement and no doubt will continue to do so.  They are less expensive than the comparable toys from Siku , so I don't really see their popularity waning anytime in the future.  Although Siku toys are more robust than Ertl/Britains, they are also a bit more expensive, so there is room for both in the market. 

UH are not going to have any effect whatsoever on the toy market because their products are highly detailed and pretty flimsy and look good as a static shelf model, if you can get them out of the box without them breaking. 

I think the survey results tend to support that and show that those who remain hostile to RC2 and everything they produce are in the minority!

All the plastic wheeled/PVC tyred 5000's suffer wheel melt unless kept in reasonably cool conditions.  Most of the tractors Britains made right up until the end of UK manufacture have the same problem, although the Fordd 6600 (which had harder tyres) and the MF 135 don't seem to suffer.  Indeed, the silver wheels in general are far less prone to it than the white wheels. 

The more recent tractors may be better, but they haven't really been around long enough for it to appear.

All the ones from 1973 on had 'Steer-o-Matic',  but it simply worked by applying a little pressure to 'lean' the tractor slightly in the direction you wished it to steer, and the front axle beam swung that way in response to this.  It wasn't anything very technical, and may have been something britains discovered by accident, rather than something that was intentionally designed into the model.

The model you are referring to with the 5000 decal but the exhaust at the front is what is generally referred to as a 'transition' model, made when Britains were still using up parts from the previous version after the new one came out.  Whilst the 6600 was first shown in the 1976 catalogue, they actually started appearing in the shops in the autumn of 1975, Ford having launched the 600 series earlier that year. 

Your example looks a very nice one and will be one that was sold as having Steer-o-Matic.

The cab was made by the Ford Industrial Equipment Company, hence the abbreviation to FIECo. You will also find parts on some tractors of the time marked FoMoCo for Ford Motor Company (the front end suitcase weights being one example).

As these are the new range from Case-IH, there must be a distinct possibility.  The 8120 and 9120, and appear similar to the outgoing 7010 and 8010 which they replace,  apart from revised panel work at the rear.

Ertl have made small changes to their JD combines as they have been updated, so may well do so for Case-IH.