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It is Epple - here's a few links I found with a few pictures, though not much info.
http://www.agri24.ch/occasionen,458793,Epple-211.html
http://www.landwirt.com/gebrauchte,556644,Epple-840.html
http://www.traktorhof.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6898&sid=048ef5413e85daf5028e2c32988c74ac
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Not really, they used to make a lot more than that if genuine (used to sell easily for over £500) - that looks OK, but it's difficult to tell from a pic.
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Some interesting colours there Andy, not seen any of those before. They will certainly be civilian versions.
I've only seen the two tone blue (light blue bodywork with dark blue mudguards and white roof) and the yellow bodywork/black mudguards versions of that cab. The latter was an early wartime one fitted with metal tyres because of the shortage of rubber.
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Case 4200 Gab Glass
Does it chatter?
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Nowadays, the traditional idea of rotation has largely been abandoned, although continuous wheat isn't as common as it was a few years ago. Many farms now have such a small range of cropping that it isn't possible to achieve rotations of more than 2 or 3 years, and this is particularly problematic for crops such as OSR, potatoes, sugar beet, and peas which ideally require much longer breaks to prevent build up of soil borne pests and diseases (6 to 8 years).
Traditional rotations have largely died out - the old 'Norfolk Four Course' having been the best known (Roots, Barley, Seeds, Wheat).
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On hard ground tracks make the ride very uncomfortable i would say rubber is more of a bone shaker than metal,
They certainly used to be, but most of the newer machines have airbag suspension which makes the ride much more tolerable - one exception so far being the Quadtrac.
i would hate to be stuck on a Quadtrac day after day.It isn't a pleasant experience, particularly on dry, hard going. With 5 idler wheels to each track, you feel every bump and clod/stone 10 times
As to reducing compaction, a Quadtrac 535 weighs in at 25 tonnes with a full fuel tank, so you can put it on tracks, super singles, dual or triple wheels, it will still paddle the land down like turnpike road.
Having spent a couple of seasons on one, I am not their greatest fan. For a machine with nearly 550hp on tap, its pulling ability was not that outstanding (I think a lot of the power is used hauling the tractor about!). You could easily use most of the 940litre fuel load in a 16 hour day, and track replacement at around £5000 each (they will last anywhere from 2500 to 4000 hours depending on soil type and usage), can make them a costly machine to run. In my opinion the only job they are good at is impressing the neighbours (at which they are unsurpassed).
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Surely that would be 'Case-IH' red and black
The Little Farmer version was red with silver discs.
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Well done UH - Export version 5000 with a UK tax disc
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The early green one had a jewelled worklight (mounted on the pto guard
). I think the Autoway one did also, but the later re-issued ones in blue or yellow had the recess painted white instead.Just to update this, having checked my versions:
The Green one has a jewelled light, as do both the Autoway and the re-issued Farm version in Yellow.
The Blue farm one has no jewel, and the recess is NOT painted white.
I haven't come across a red one, so can't verify whether it exists or not.
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Not a dud, but is modelled on the US style of header trailer, so doesn't look up to much to us.
It would be better if they included a trailer specific to each combine, as Siku do. They also need to add a tow hitch to the rear axle of their combines, to enable the trailer to be used!
It is worth noting also, that some combine manufactureres source their header trailers from the country in which they are sold, which results in different styles of trailer between some European countries.
As examples, a few years back Claas used to make their own trailers at Saxham for combines sold in the UK (they possibly still do?), and these were the single mid axle or mid twin axle designs we are used to seeing. Elsewhere in Europe they supplied the German style of trailer which was a 'wheel at each corner' design (similar to the RC2 one).
Case New Holland source their UK market header trailers from Marston Agricultural Services, which results in us having slightly different designs in the UK compared with elsewhere in Europe.
Massey Ferguson and Sampo supply their own trailers, so these are the same for all markets.
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At the end of its production life, the 8400 was also remaindered and was available for under £50 (its normal selling price had been £75).
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I can think of 2 battery powered John Deeres in 32nd by Ertl:
1. A plastic, very basic looking wire remote controlled JD 7800 MFWD (#5724)
2. An artic four wheel drive JD 8960 (#5582), also mainly plastic, which had a pto drive for either a rotary muckspreader or a powered tipping trailer. It was not remote controlled. Ertl also produced a similar powered Case-IH 4994.
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I would think the FW30 and MF1505 are possibly lined up for deletion from the range and have simply been 'remaindered' to clear the remaining stock. They probably want to clear the FW30 in particular before the newly tooled FW60 is released later in the year.
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The early green one had a jewelled worklight (mounted on the pto guard
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In the Jan 1958 home trade price list these are numbered as 801. I have a few of these in a pale ish brown plastic, they are quite brittle compared with the soft PVC white version.
Another variation to add to my wishlist
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front axle suspension on modern tractors is fitted to aid driver comfort nothing to do with legal speed requirements.
as for laws wiping out British farming thats nonsense the Agricultural industry needs bringing in to line when any form of road work is involved, roads are busier than they were 10 years ago, a MOT system for tractors and trailers should be compulsory by now.
Sprayers have tests and sprayer operators are tested an mot system for tractors and trailers would help farmers in the long run.
Have to agree entirely with that. Every survey of agricultural tractors and trailers that has been done has shown that far too high a proportion of them are maintained to a woefully inadequate standard (and I can vouch from my own experience that not only have I been expected to use similarly unroadworthy equipment, most of my past employers showed no interest in putting things right).
We are not dealing with 2 ton tractors pulling a 3 ton Fergy cart anymore, most tractor/trailer combinations are being run close to (or above) the maximum permitted 24,390kg Max Gross train Weight.
There is absolutely no valid argument against the introduction of both tractor AND trailer MOT tests.
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do you not need a licence do drive a farmmaster on the road a full uk drivers licence does not cover pivot steer or articulated steer
No, both class B and F will allow you to drive pivot/artic steer or skid steer.
The only agricultural machines not covered under these two classes are tracked machines steered by their tracks ie crawlers (whether on metal or rubber tracks). Machines such as Challengers and JD 8000T and 9000T ans Quadtracs fall into this category (the Quadtrac is a bit of a grey area, but the advice from DVLA is that it should be considered to be steered by its tracks, therefore you need a class H licence, and be at least 21 to take them on the road)
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why is it illegal to pull a 13 tonne track machine behind a tractor on a low loader but the same tractor is allowed to pull 13 tonne of grass or dung trafic branch say 6 tonne is the biggest digger you can tow why is this
It stems from the fact that a tractor pickup hitch must not carry more than 3000kg. Most low loaders have the wheels to the rear of the load platform, therefore 50% of the weight of the low loader plus load is carried on the drawbar, which in turn implies that the maximum permissable gross weight of the low loader plus its load can only be 6000kg.
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To pick up on one or two points raised:
The 21 year minimum age limit is a legal requirement (nothing to do with insurance) for any agricultural tractor/sprayer/combine harvester which has an unladen weight of over 7370kg. There is no actual weight limit for a class F licence. Tractors (Agricultural Motor Vehicles) and combines (Agricultural Engines), are exempt from the LGV driving licence regulations.
Under Construction and Use Regulations, the Maximum Permissable Gross Train Weight (ie tractor+trailer+load) for an agricultural tractor and trailer is 24 390kg. Above this you are legally regarded as an LGV, and are required to comply with ALL the regulations that LGV's have to comply with regarding licensing (vehicle and driver), MOT Test, fuel, braking, drivers hours/tachographs, maintenance schedules etc. Exceeding 24,390kg with an agricultural tractor/trailer could potentially land you with a fine of up to £5000.
As far as Forklifts are concerned, it was the case that you could not use them for towing, because the licencing rules changed a few years ago, and they had to be licensed as a mobile crane (which may not tow anything other than equipment for use in its role as a crane). However, this has now changed, and they may tow a trailer providing they are suitably equipped with a synchronised trailer braking system.
ALL agricultural trailers with a Maximum Gross Weight of over 750kg must have a braking system which can be applied on the move (at the most basic, overrun brakes may be suitable). Trailers made since 1st Dec 1985, must have a braking system that can be applied progressively by the driver from his normal driving position, and must acheive a braking efficiency of at least 25%.
Trailers with a MGW exceeding 14 230kg must have a braking system operated directly by the service braking system of the pulling vehicle.
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Not just lead soldiers then?
It covers all the models in all ranges produced by Britains up to 1993, and has a full listing with the year they were first shown in the main catalogue, and the year they were last in the main catalogue.
white fencing still available in 1964 retail price listIt may well have been remaining stock carried over. According to Opie, both the Brown Fencing (1722) and White Fencing (1723) are given as deleted at end of 1963.
My copy is of pages 6 and 7. Month and year ? are they as yours?
My 1958 full catalogue (a more recent reprint), is much the same as previous ones ie. the front section is devoted to the soldiers. Farm range runs from page 131 to page 199. The only piece of plastic shown is 586 Plastic Fence (which had been plastic since 1955). Might your photocopy be of pages from the New Lines catalogue?
The 1959 pocket catalogue is about two thirds of the height and half the width of the full sized catalogues, and has 160 pages and includes the full Britains range, and also the full Herald range (from page 110 to 140). The full complement of lead mould plastic animals are shown under Herald.
The Shepherd and Girl with Bucket are not shown individually, although they appear to be depicted in some of the boxed sets, but this may possibly be due to Britains carrying the picture over from a previous catalogue - the actual figures may well have been the Herald Shepherd (H2045) and Landgirl (H2052) ?
The Plastic Fence (586) is still shown in the section with the Britains lead figures. The Herald section includes H1719 Fence, which I had always assumed was the same as 586 - was this the case?
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That's correct:
The tractor and appliance/trailer it is towing must be fitted with full dual line air braking to legally exceed 20mph. The air assisted hydraulic brakes found on some larger trailers is not sufficient.
Both must also be fitted with independent suspension at each wheel (tractors fitted with a suspended front axle and cab do not meet the requirement).
It is also important that the axles and wheels/tyres are suitable for high speed roadwork - those fitted to most standard agricultural spec trailers and appliances are not.
Fastracs and Unimogs can exceed 20mph legally because both have independent suspension and air braking as standard.
Exceeding 20mph with a tractor not suitably equipped could potentially land you with a Fixed Penalty Notice and 3 points on your licence. I have not heard of anyone who has actually suffered that though (although I do know of one case where a Fastrac operator was fined and received points for exceeding a 30mph limit)
The idea of the higher speed gearboxes, is to allow the operator to selct a higher gear and lower revs to aid ecomony and engine wear on road work, rather than to enable tractors to drive at high speed.
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Is this the one with the lead soldiers included with it? To dear for me
That's the one - It could be bought as just the book (expensive!), or the book in a presentation box with a set of soldiers (extortionate!!). I was offered a very good price by a friendly stockist - I think I paid £60 which seemed a lot at the time, but doesn't look bad when I see what they make now
I was under the impression that the SA37 leaflet was from 1964 as that is the one I have, did not know about the SA37/64 leaflet. I have versions of the Floral as both SA32 and SA32/64 and again for the Zoo as SA38 and SA38/64. The last one in French.I think there were two versions of each of the four leaflets, one for 1963 and one for 1964. I am reasonably sure that SA37 is 1963 as it shows the 2nd type Super Major which was superceded by the New Performance Super Major in early 64, and also the Herald Post and Rail Fencing which (according to Opie) was deleted at the end of 1963.
I believe that these were shown in the main catalogue for 1958, I only have a photocopy, from the 1958 catalogue I am sure, showing the plastic versions of the lead range.The Jan 1958 Britains catalogue I have doesn't have any plastic in it, but I have a 1959 Britains pocket catalogue which shows all the plastic both lead mould and Herald- was there another catalogue in between (July perhaps?)
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Its an interesting poll this one.
Britains removed the driver years ago at the request of collectors by all accounts.
Not heard that excuse before. I always felt it had more to do with Ertl owning the brand - Ertl never have fitted a driver, and it would also have saved on costs.
I liked them with a driver (but I have got used to it) - but I have to admit that I was never very impressed with the chimpanzee that masqueraded as a driver in the last few years!
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The blue one was indeed from the 'Little Farmer' range (you can see the 'Little Farmer' logo on the side in the pic). It was in set 40561 with the John Deere shaped tractor in the same blue. It was one of the first introductions in that range in 2002 and was deleted at the end of 2005 along with the rest of the range. It was not issued on its own.
The yellow Vermeer version of the baler was issued in the USA in 1981 and it seems that only one batch were made. If they made a similar sized batch of these as was done for the Hesston 580DT, that is reputed to have been only 2000.
The Deutz-Allis and the two versions of the US issue Milk Tanker were also done in similar 'one batch only' runs.
Most of the boxed ones that turn up come back this side of the Atlantic, so there are possibly less over there nowadays than they are over here!
Unusual LWB Land Rover
in Britains Farm Models
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Is that the one that was on eBay a week or two ago. I looked and thought it was just the safari canopy had been swapped onto the farm version.
The safari version had that same canopy in white with a roof rack of stores mounted on a peg moulded to the centre of the canopy.
edit On further inspection and research, this could be a very late version made up of leftovers at the end of the life of the LWB Series 3 in 1974. It is packed in the safari version of the box (with orange bands around the ends and orange inner as opposed to the usual pale green of the normal farm one), which coupled with a white roof ties in. It would have been a simple task to remove the peg from the top of the canopy, so they could use up white canopies when the tan ones ran out, and I expect the farm boxes had run out also. In this case there may have only been a handful produced. The registration number (MAC 68L) was only applied to models made in the last couple of years of production.
Thanks for that link 4055power, it has some interesting variations. I recall watching one of those display stands on ebay a couple of years ago - sadly, it got too expensive for me
They must be colour blind however, because the one he refers to as blue, is in fact the standard issue dark grey. Further down the page he refers to the series 2 with a 'blue' farmer, which actually appears to be the green farmer ! (I've never heard of the farmer in blue)
I haven't come across the Unipart or Disposal Sales agency ones before either. Were they Britains produced i wonder, or altered by a third party (code 3) ?