Powerstarâ„¢ Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 What are peoples opinions on the Same, Silver - Antares- Titan ranges? They all look really nice tractors, but are they nice mechanically, comfort like? This Silver 100.6 looks quite smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Pieces of cr*p thats all i've heard reliability is rubbish comfort basic and just not close to any other manufacturer the reliability of even the 03 models of Case's MXM 175-190 and NH TM 175-190 were better (i've heard nothing but bad things about there engines etc the 03 models) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 A big local dairy farmer has just bought 2 new tractors one a Renault Ares & A Same Silver 130 He says it's a gem it's 02 reg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I drove a Lamborghini equivalent to the Same silver a few years back. Did a bit of muck spreading with it on a Harry West rear discharge. Was very basic I thought, the gearing on it was terrible one of the worse I'd ever used, I did think it was quite comfartable though had a nice seat and everything was where you wanted it. It's a tractor where it's ok in short, sharp bursts, not something you'd want to drive for 16hrs a day during harvest though \ \ :) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I would definatly agree with NCC perfect for farmers with small acreages but if your gonna be spending up to 16-18 hrs a day in a tractor cab no thank you wouldnt even touch them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Strange you lot say that as a contrator nearby had a fleet of 8 till he fell out with the dealer , & he was very impressed with them as he'd had SAME for the last 15 years, some of them sounded real beasts as the baffles had rotted out in the exhaust, the only thing the drivers didn't like was that the steering shared the same oil resovior as the back end & if you didn't keep the steering working while tipping a trailer then you'd have no steering . Apart from that, if there was another dealer close by he'd of bought more he now runs Deeres & MF & refuses to go into the SAME dealers yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 I was reading an article in one of the tractor mags about Feb/April time, there was a guy in there who had two on contracting and he swore by them..... one was on hedgecutting pretty much full time from what I remember which I would think is a good test for any tractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilpek Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 i havent any experience of them but have to say ive seen a rubin drawing around here a while back with a dump trailer and she looked very impressive, as for the rest of them i think there pretty ugly (excuse the pun), one of my friends mowes silage with one niot sure which model it is now but its 150hp and he swares by it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 no no no no no!!! Just listen to them tickover!!! They can't even idle properly!! engine is soft metal!!!! gearbox is really shite quality metal that has basically been hardened a little!!! no no no no You may know i'm a big deere fan, followed by massey, then Fendt, then fordson super major, then MAYBE the older renaults purely for grip, like the 103s and 106s, But thats as far as i stoop, SAME don't get a look. Over here people buy them cause they are cheap and only do very little work with them like clear out the odd hen house or pull like a 6 ton trailer of silage!!! ha ha! :D You'd be better buyin a vintage case!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 i havent any experience of them but have to say ive seen a rubin drawing around here a while back with a dump trailer and she looked very impressive, as for the rest of them? i think there pretty ugly (excuse the pun), one of my friends mowes silage with one niot sure which model it is now but its 150hp and he swares by it! Is it a fairly modern Same civilpek? Antares, Silver?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
civilpek Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Actually asked him today in college, turns out its a 190hp titan, 94 reg i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted December 5, 2005 Author Share Posted December 5, 2005 I thought they were pretty nice tractors, the Dutch use them for silage carting with big Peecons and Veenhuis wagons, seen some hauling huge DEWA wagens too. Lots on Farmphoto. So some people like them others dont? Sounds like Ice tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 5, 2005 Share Posted December 5, 2005 Our neighbour had a 130, sounded lovelly. He ploughed with a 5f Rabe, spread muck with a 10t BJ, had a 4m shakerator so it did alot of work on a variety of tasks. It kept him happy till a problem occured in the hydraulics and the dealer didn't want to know. As far as I know he was pretty happy with, a McCormick has replaced it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steiger fan Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 SAME's are the same as the gum on the bottom of your chair at school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 6, 2005 Share Posted December 6, 2005 What, it lasts for ages??!!!!!!! :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fendt pwr Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 I've never seen a same working over here,they and renault are not very well liked. Our same dealer is now selling valtra,I'll say no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted December 15, 2005 Author Share Posted December 15, 2005 I have four Same's in my area, A Silver 130, Explorer x2, Lazer. I have seen a Saturno 80 used by a fencing contractor. Only twice though, He also runs a MB trac 800 with Stoll loader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Hmmm I do know people who rent ground off me for potatoes work with 8 SAME. mainly because they are cheaper to buy and the dealer gives them next to nothing service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 I've never seen a same working over here,they and renault are not very well liked. Our same dealer is now selling valtra,I'll say no more. Some might say the same about Same here, as in not seeing them working!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 SAME seem to be in the same bracket as DEUTZ, although DEUTZ is the better of the two ,in that long term users swear by them but the others are biased to what they like anyway, i learned to drive properly on a 135 & although i've not driven a fergie for a while ,if push came to shove then i'd always go red even though i've driven better at times. There arn't many DEUTZ or SAME dealers around our way ,but those who got them very rarely get rid of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fendt pwr Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 Well said mjb1 There's an organic root crop farmer near me how will only look at a tractor if it's deutz. The new Same iron's have 6cly Deutz euro 2 donks in them and will lift 9.2 ton and pump out 120l per min of oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 120L/min is that through the crankcase seal? No no you guys are right. The chap I mentioned who went to McCormick only did so because of the dealer. He was happy with it, only tractor he had, he was the only driver etc so it wasn't abused or anything and it stood up to the test pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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