Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Massey Ferguson Pressure Control.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 So that is what it does... how does it work Marky I hear you say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Well Marky... what does the coupling look like then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 So Marky... if you are being such a nerd... give us some figures then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 So... questions and answers then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 Another claim... and proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 All sounds too good to be true really.... so why was it not so popular then.... Now what we need now is someone Old and Wise to tell us what the "floors" were.... JDC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batcher Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Sir sir i know(holding hand up) pick me Looking at the pressure on the drawbar with a over keen tractor driver might be a problem ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallclaas Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Hmm! interesting MF were always trying something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 "Try a MF Pressure Control tractor on your farm".......we did Good theory but (I don't like to slag Masseys - Oh what the hell) Turning with it on was interesting. Nice heavy machine to work soil, magically becomes a light machine that doesn't - so you go faster Imagine the headache when that chain snaps Basically it was a pain. Sorry, teach, I'll go and sit in the corner with my pointy hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 same as most oddities marky & jdc will agree , in the right hands & working in the right conditions it worked well , but like many other things , the tractor driver gets told 'ah you'll work it out' & i daresay many didn't \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 "Try a MF Pressure Control tractor on your farm".......we did Good theory but (I don't like to slag Masseys - Oh what the hell) Turning with it on was interesting. Nice heavy machine to work soil, magically becomes a light machine that doesn't - so you go faster Imagine the headache when that chain snaps Basically it was a pain. Sorry, teach, I'll go and sit in the corner with my pointy hat. Great... thanks John.. I was kind of hoping you had used it... it's GREAT to get a real operators view... and one who's opinion I very much trust as well... I knew there must have been a reason why it didn;t "take off" ... shame really... but as Marcus says... in the right conditions great I am sure... but floored by "other factors" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Great... thanks John.. I was kind of hoping you had used it... it's GREAT to get a real operators view... and one who's opinion I very much trust as well... I knew there must have been a reason why it didn;t "take off" ... shame really... but as Marcus says... in the right conditions great I am sure... but floored by "other factors" or even possibly flawed, by others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Oops Good job the spelling numpties are null and void :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 I read the pics 3 times looking for 'floors' I think it was at the time when trailed equipment was being superceded by linkage mounted stuff which probably didn't help. It worked best on something like a 4 wheel turntable trailer where there was a decent weight to transfer. It could on the other hand allow you to dig in and get stuck much more quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 i think darren tebbit from CT did an article on this equipment a while back you going to find one for the 410 mark ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 Is that all in the Pressure Control lecture Marky - now what do we need to know for the exam ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 i think darren tebbit from CT did an article on this equipment a while back you going to find one for the 410 mark ? Dont think Masseys come with pressure control hydraulics anymore \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 9, 2007 Author Share Posted March 9, 2007 Dont think Masseys come with pressure control hydraulics anymore \ No... you can't get it any more... another item resigned to the bowels of history :'( \ Now Colm.... the exam will be set in one weeks time... just to see if you have taken it all in... and I do strongly advise you all to revise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBRITFARMER Posted March 9, 2007 Share Posted March 9, 2007 No... you can't get it any more... another item resigned to the bowels of history :'( \ Now Colm.... the exam will be set in one weeks time... just to see if you have taken it all in... and I do strongly advise you all to revise OOh OOh OOh Please Sirrrrrrrrrrr !!!! *raises hand high in the air* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainswomble Posted March 10, 2007 Share Posted March 10, 2007 I read the pics 3 times looking for 'floors' I think it was at the time when trailed equipment was being superceded by linkage mounted stuff which probably didn't help. It worked best on something like a 4 wheel turntable trailer where there was a decent weight to transfer. It could on the other hand allow you to dig in and get stuck much more quickly. There was a lengthy article on pressure control either in Classic Tractor or Tractor and Machinery several months ago. I will try and find out which one over the weekend. I think it was specifically designed with trailed discs and four wheel trailers in mind and would have probably been intended for non European markets where more trailed implements were used. The article I saw showed it on a four wheeled trailer behind a 185 or 188 with cast PAVT wheels. Ok if the drawbar could take an upward force. Sadly I think most trailed implements of the time had their strength in the horizontal plane and would have been easily broken. Clever idea though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 OOh OOh OOh Please Sirrrrrrrrrrr !!!! *raises hand high in the air* Yes Scot... off you go and wash your hands afterwards please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBRITFARMER Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Yes Scot... off you go and wash your hands afterwards please :D :D Can I borrow that brochure to wipe my ar$e with too :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 :D :D Can I borrow that brochure to wipe my ar$e with too :D No However... you CAN go and stand in the corner young man.. and come and see me after school... You will write..... 100 times... I love Massey Ferguson really... and I'm sorry I made out I didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 the hydraulic quadrant levers had a position called "CONSTANT PUMPING" that I don't seem to remember anyone mentioning in any of the articles. One had to set this position to effect the set-up. I guess it must have meant a pressure relief valve blowing most of the time in the circuit, not good practice in most hydraulic systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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