luke p Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 does anyone no if same is a real tractors make becaues their is one at the place where i keep the hores pics would help chees mates Quote
pudding Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 http://www.puddingsworld.com/Machinery/Same_Trattori/index.html this all the information on SAME i got on my website, take a pic with ya telephone and post it on this forum, we will identify it for you Quote
luke p Posted February 11, 2008 Author Posted February 11, 2008 http://www.puddingsworld.com/Machinery/Same_Trattori/index.html this all the information on SAME i got on my website, take a pic with ya telephone and post it on this forum, we will identify it for you i have but cant get them on to the laptop so i take my camera next time i go up the horse Quote
luke p Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 i have but cant get them on to the laptop so i take my camera next time i go up the horse got the pics Quote
luke p Posted February 14, 2008 Author Posted February 14, 2008 Looks like a Taurus 60 to me i walk next to it cant see what model it is i think there are same tractors one is in a barn the one in the pic is falling apart :'( :'( it's make me cry and unhappy Quote
pudding Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 ya looks like a taurus 60 would be a 3 cylinder, would make a great restore, they did something MF couldn't, make 4wd 60hp and cab in the early 80's ha ha! minitaurus was the cabless version Quote
NIGEL FORD Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 There was a topic on some SAMEs the other week on here which I contributed pictures of 2 very rare models from my collection. Do a search if interested. Quote
powerrabbit Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 Extremely hard to find any older Samies (Same pronounced 'Sammy') in good order tin-work wise, suffered the same rust problem as the Fiats, rotted out after about 6 years from new, their cars suffered the problem as well, that's the trouble when you use recycled pet food cans and baked bean tins to make panels! Quote
Kiwi6920 Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Extremely hard to find any older Samies (Same pronounced 'Sammy') in good order tin-work wise, suffered the same rust problem as the Fiats, rotted out after about 6 years from new, their cars suffered the problem as well, that's the trouble when you use recycled pet food cans and baked bean tins to make panels! Is that true ?? good idea behind it if it is true bad reality tho Quote
pudding Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 fiat figured it out adventually with zinc coating, SAME went to fibreglass ha ha! lot of panels on these tractors used two thin sheets of steel folded to for panels, rolled corners etc, they generally rusted from the inside out.due to holes drilled or inperfect workmanship.......its a real shame because the rest of the tractor generally lasted you can still get new panels for the older fiat 640's etc........they still build them new and refurbish them in india and bolt on turbos Quote
powerrabbit Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 The majority of the Same and Fiat tractors from the mid 70's to mid 80's that were new around this area rusted out very quickly, freind of mine bought a Fiat 880 new in the early 80's and the panels were hanging within 2 years, he traded it in because of that, also the exhaust pipe rusted out within 6 months. Same and Fiat belong to the same parent company. I was told that the panels rusted out very quickly because of the poor quality of steel that Italy was importing, something to do with their poor economy that resulted from the last World War as it left the country more or less in a 'third world' state. Quote
Belarusfan Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 The majority of the Same and Fiat tractors from the mid 70's to mid 80's that were new around this area rusted out very quickly, freind of mine bought a Fiat 880 new in the early 80's and the panels were hanging within 2 years, he traded it in because of that, also the exhaust pipe rusted out within 6 months. Same and Fiat belong to the same parent company. I was told that the panels rusted out very quickly because of the poor quality of steel that Italy was importing, something to do with their poor economy that resulted from the last World War as it left the country more or less in a 'third world' state. Fiat is CNH, owning NH and Case IH While Same is SDF.. But the 880 was an excellent tractor, was his an orange or a brown beast? 5 cylinder? Quote
powerrabbit Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 It was a 5 cylinder. Sorry, did'nt mention that Same and Fiat USED to belong to the same company. Quote
NIGEL FORD Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Perhaps it wasn't just the engine then that made it sound like a bag of nails on the CENTURION 75 I had on demo back in the early 80s. Quote
pudding Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 SAME was family owned and i thought it still was FIAT is a division of the italian gov at one point, or still is, i thought argo was also funded by the italian gov the 880 had two engines, the 880 (4pot) and 880-5 (5pot) the 5 cylinder was considered gutless compared to the 4 FIAT is a huge company, they may not have a tractor bearing there name and colours but there presence in the AG industry is bigger then it ever was, the upper management of that company are very cleaver........so is argo group, those guys realised that branding is often better then the product itself Quote
Belarusfan Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 SAME was family owned and i thought it still was FIAT is a division of the italian gov at one point, or still is, i thought argo was also funded by the italian gov the 880 had two engines, the 880 (4pot) and 880-5 (5pot) the 5 cylinder was considered gutless compared to the 4 FIAT is a huge company, they may not have a tractor bearing there name and colours but there presence in the AG industry is bigger then it ever was, the upper management of that company are very cleaver........so is argo group, those guys realised that branding is often better then the product itself Interesting the 5 cyl was considered bad Only ever heard good things \ I do think it's nice that most people who buy a Case or NH forget that they're really buying a Fiat 8) Quote
luke p Posted February 17, 2008 Author Posted February 17, 2008 does anyone have models of same tractors if you do pm me or put a link to it on the page thanks Quote
powerrabbit Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 Looked in on my local Same dealers today to pick up some David Brown plough shares and asked the storeman if Same do any 'official' model tractors, he said he would find out. Quote
farmernick06 Posted February 20, 2008 Posted February 20, 2008 does anyone no if same is a real tractors make becaues their is one at the place where i keep the hores pics would help chees mates Been keeping the what? :o Naughty, naughty young man Quote
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted February 21, 2008 Posted February 21, 2008 :D How many you keeping? Can you spare one? Quote
luke p Posted February 21, 2008 Author Posted February 21, 2008 :D How many you keeping? Can you spare one? what Quote
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 :D :D I have chuckled a fair bit. Don't worry luke, it's just your typing error. Quote
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