that's why i worrie about 'new' boys that drive for the contractor some of them are just fresh out the town and never had any Major tractor work, when they haul grass it seems to be a good idea and go heavy on the right foot. they dont seem to know how long it would take to stop a tractor going flat out with say 10t of grass in the back accident waiting to happen. another one i worrie about plenty plant contractors going about this county just now. They are hauling rock for drive ways, drains or whatever you see them coming out the quarry, tractor no where near capable of pulling the load. The weight that must be in some of the trailers that pass here is unreal. Seen a good few tractors here in caithness blowing the pistons and wrecking wheels or castings, that was a very intersting read Tris