gromittigger

Vicon will have a mounted sprayer prototype model on their stand from the companyh that made the KV plough and Optima drill

That vicon trailer is great, cann't wait till it will be released .

Texas

Me too!!!! got to get one!

Its been a while but I've re done my list at the beginning of this post - it shows all the available models not all the box types - so its ideal for people like me who displays and is not concerned with the box styles.   With help of ATTE's site I have a complete list with different box types included but its well over 300 now!!!

Think we have cracked it now

Underhaug when it was a separate company didn't have a distribution for their newly designed wrapper in the UK so they sold it through Volac as a distribution agent.  When KV came along they gave them a couple of years to continue whilst they took over then Volac made their own with Dowdeswell.

Hope this helps

Now I think you might be getting nearer with the Underhaug brand - I can probably resolve this further now, as you probably guessed I work for Kv group and also the Greenland group before. I can speak to a colleague of mine who worked with Underhaug and find out the tie up with this brand.  Ironically the wrappers have been moved to the old PZ factory in Holland now and built with the Vicon branded machines and the Vicon Balers. 

Vicon and Kv do hold many Patents in the industry as they feel they need to lead rather than follow - this can cause problems at the beginning as development time is a lot longer for us than a company that copies a design once established.

What we could find is that Volac were and still are very big suppliers of the plastic film and the best way for Underhaug to establish a wrapper would be to introduce it through a film supplier first.  Volac would promote it to improve forage quality and diet against the use of bags which were used at this time?

If memory serves correctly, the wrapper in question was built by Taarup and imported and sold by Dowdeswell in association with feed specialists Volac (who still exist near Royston in Hertfordshire). 

Taarup were part of the Greenland Group (as were Vicon), and were taken over by Kverneland in 1998.  Kverneland then took over the marketing of Greenland products in the UK, and so the marketing tie up between Dowdeswell and Volac ended and the machine was subsequently sold as a Kverneland.  The change of decal on the Britains model simply reflected this. 

Sorry to disagree but Taarup weren't part of the Greeland group, Greenland was made up of PZ, Vicon, Deutz Fahr (Machinery) and Rivierre Casalis.  Your right that Greenland were purchased in '98 but Kverneland purchased underhaug in '86, Taarup in '93 who were a sole owned company at this point, Accord in '96, Silo wolff in '97, Rau in '98 and three main vinyard companies in 2000/01

the Volac machine was built in Norfolk at Dowdeswell for Volac - the only tie up Dowdeswell had with Vicon/KV is they used to build a lot of the SKH products and MF/vicon drills but this was stopped when KV came along The Dowdeswell Norfolk site was opened up to a lot of companies to assemble machines there such as the pearson harvesters. Dowdeswell then bought the Volac rights and manufactured themselves until Norfolk site was closed for development and the wrapper range sold to Astwell augers and the tandem axle machine was then imported by Astwell to give them a twin sat machine as the demand in the UK was increasing. 

The only reason I beleive Britains changed the model to a KV machine is there not true to the original so changing a sticker was a cheap way of making more money as all turntable wrappers looked the same at this point.

 

Not really, Volac were taken over by Kverneland, hence the change of decal  

9592   Dowdeswell Volac 820  1997 to 2001 

00213  Kverneland UN7515     1999 to 2003

Not to confuse things but Kverneland didn't buy Volac/dowdeswell, a company called astwell augers purchased them on the A14 near Huntingdon.  They then complemented the range with a tandem axle twin sat wrapper.  Unfortunatly they wern't that suscessful with wrappers and seem to have died off.  Kv wrappers at that time were built in demark but now are built in the Vicon baler factory in Holland.

The UK site is as follows

Vicon.eu/uk - it has different machines on it such as the new hedge trimmers and sprayers but not the drills and cultivation as they are not sold in the uk anymore.

A new website link has been created www.vicon.eu

When i am right the one i have don't has double decals.

Texas

Mine doesn't

I''ll be there on both days, Johnson Bros, Stalham and B W Mack Stands

Wheres all those pipes on the real model then?

Answer that one, and you Ricky.

Don't shoot me down for it but..

To me it looks like a double acting hose to lift and lower - the hoses are coiled up on top of the machine so you can unwrap them and they will reach the tractor model...at a guess

Around Leighton buzzard is difficult - any Amazone dealer would be worth a try but your nearest dealer towards the east would probably be TNS at newmarket - I don't cover the west so I can't help - can't olivers still get parts? happy hunting.

http://www.farmtoysforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=10923.msg183887#msg183887

This is a link on this forum with the list so far ( abit behind as I haven't done it for a while)

The models highlighted as limited, have the qty printed on the bottom of the model.

There were a lot of machines classed as limited but these were limited runs so have no qty writen on the bottom. There usually models produced for manufacturers only, such as some of the Valtra were produced only in certain colours for general release.

hope this helps

I'd suggest for your requirement all you would need is a ford 6610

Pick a tidy one up for arround 4-5 grand

Not worth shelling out loads for the ammount of ground you will be working

I agree,  80hp tractor is about all you need to know - for 10 acres hours aren't a problem just check for possible leaks, hydraulics that drop with weight on the linkage (bad for mowers) and see if you can use the controls easily enough whilst using it (you don't want a tractor you hate driving after an hour) - There are plenty of tractors all makes and models out there. Good luck in you hunt!

I Don't know anything abut Zetors but I didn't think they were air cooled - how does the radiator get air? I can't see any grills?

Is the JCB trailer a 1/16?

Doe show 5000?

Sorry I haven't up dated the list but its maxed out on the word count - I talking to Andy to see if we can attach a PDF to the front so the file can be as large as it likes.

Thanks

The new KV plough is on the KVGroup Fanshop - This is the German Fanshop at present as the other countries don't do one.  Agritechnica was the first ever official Fanshop for KVGroup.

Hence why Germany is further ahead than the rest.

http://www.kverneland-fanshop.com/

Marky - I spoke to Dan this morning and he said he was baling rubbish!   he's on our dealer trip to Holland next week - It would confuse him if I put one of your pictures up in the presentation!

Its a good business to get into, my mrs works for a large waste products company - the government pay them grants to run the company, they charge the companies to take it away and then they turn the waste into goods to sell such as bedding, plastic plates, anything really.  What a winner

Hello

So far the Claas, Renault and Valtra list is done so any thing missed just post me.

Questions

- was there a Ltd Ed Metalic Blue valtra C120 as well as the normal one? if so any more details ie box and number please

- Renault did a 456 with mudguards. I have one but box is put away - does anyone know the number if its different and box type?

- What box types did the Valtra/Power harrow set come in please

Cheers

looks like the beacon has been taken off the 818, theres holes for it. both my 820 and 818 have beacons

mine too

Like the sound of that better

Thats good as it will save a lot of work

Possible Ricky but each box type usually has a different UH Number/Reference Number.  The only ones I know that are the same are the Green and Brown Country Collection boxes.

You've got a point though - I could keep the list like the Claas but delete the red description leaving the UH Number and box types listed 

wooaaahhh that list is getting confusing now  :D

To be really honest I agree - I wrote the list before so people could see what models were available to complete their set.

As I display the items the boxes are not necessary for me.

But I do understand there are a number of you who collects box types as well.

I'm happy to continue, but if you all think its become confusing I can stop.

So before I carry on can anyone who uses the list give me their thoughts

To make it pleasing to the eye I have highlight the descriptions Brown if they are duplicate models with different boxes.

This would allow users like me to instantly see the individual models in Black without going through the list one by one.

one other Claas - any info on the Matador details

cheers