denis086 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 our hispec 2350 tanker has been given a bit of bother because of it lacking any sort of working brakes since new but we only had a 30k tractor pulling it so we never noticed but now with the case having a 50k box its causing problems with the tractors we have just the bog standard tanker at the minute 2 inlets floation tyres sprung drawbar splashplate now we have decided that we will let hispec repair the tank and then were upgrading most likely it will be a hispec but abbey and major will be given a chance but what were interested in is what add ons you find useful on a tanker we will be getting the same spec tank again but were definitely getting hydraulic change over brackets for a trailing shoe (in case they become law or we decide to get one) but were still only wondering is the auto fill any real advantage and does anyone have lamps fitted to their tanks for spreading late at night and do the work or do they just get dirty too quickly to be an advantage and if anyone has any other points to add we would be very grateful aswell what size tractors are you using to pull what size tank were thinking about going to 2500 but wondering will a mxu135 be too small on one that size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 the last tanker i used was a Vicon Hippo in 1986, the only things i found useful was a good long stick and plenty of gloves. ( laughing very loudly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTY 7530 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 There is something about hispec tankers cause we have had Three customers tractors wreck on slopey ground pulling hispec tankers which are 2500g on 120HP tractors so a bigger tractor may prevent this from happening just to let you know if your working on slopey ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denis086 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 There is something about hispec tankers cause we have had Three customers tractors wreck on slopey ground pulling hispec tankers which are 2500g on 120HP tractors so a bigger tractor may prevent this from happening just to let you know if your working on slopey ground. ok thanks ours is a 135 and it boosts itself but im not sure would it pull it has a bit of dificulty pulling a 2350g up some of our hills just as a matter of interest what did they do to wreck them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 It is not just HiSpec's that turn over either - heard of plenty of Major's. Centre of gravity on all them tankers is quite high as it is with all of these tankers above the pick up hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTY 7530 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 ok thanks ours is a 135 and it boosts itself but im not sure would it pull it has a bit of dificulty pulling a 2350g up some of our hills just as a matter of interest what did they do to wreck them Put them on there roofs and one rolled twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denis086 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 i thought it was the tractors were damage internally because of the pressure but thats happened around here a few times because of soft wheels and turning too fast hispec have now steped their axles so the tankers are lower and they offer an offset centre in the rim to make the tanks a bit wider for stability plus you can ask for the swivel hitch to be on top of the drawbar not underneith if you know what i mean plus it can be caused by only having half a load and turning sharp just like any liquid it goes to one side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Why the heck are slurry tankers not made with sections inside?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Weirdly,I was researching Samson tankers this morning,and they have hydraulicly adjustable axles for stability on hillsides Regards Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarty C Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 sections would be a good idea right enough dont know why there not done though NC, Herbst and redrock would be at the top of my list and strangely enough hispec and major at the bottom \ but thats opinion and my uncle used to work with a major and said it was the worst tanker ever (2000 gallon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 sections would be a good idea right enough dont know why there not done though NC, Herbst and redrock would be at the top of my list and strangely enough hispec and major at the bottom \ but thats opinion and my uncle used to work with a major and said it was the worst tanker ever (2000 gallon) Why'd you cross out redrock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTY 7530 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Why'd you cross out redrock? I no there back working again are they not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarty C Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 well wasnt sure if they were going again or not, and im not sure if they'd be in my top 2 \ oh and any dealers round are way dont advise a swivel eye whether its on top or below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATTY 7530 Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 well wasnt sure if they were going again or not, and im not sure if they'd be in my top 2 \ oh and any dealers round are way dont advise a swivel eye whether its on top or below The swiveling eye is no use as when the tanker tips the tractor cannot stop it at all. \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denis086 Posted January 7, 2010 Author Share Posted January 7, 2010 ive never even seen a redrock herbst tanker down around here plus no dealers we had an abbey agent out today and the tank seems better thought out than the hispec plus its lower than the hispec tanks and i think theyre better set up for a trailing shoe only thing is theyre a fair bit dearer why dont you think swivel hitches are bad idea stuart theyre a hell of alot better than the tractor turning over tankers arent exactly unknown to turn over plus theres not much chance of any tractor stoping a tanker when it turns over on a slope plus alot easier to replace and weve replace ours after 8 years and well be hoping to keep this tanker longer \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Uncle has 3 x 1500 redrocks coming in feb they building away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarty C Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 apparently without a swivel hitch you have a bit more resistance from over turning whereas if it can swivel it'll just go on over. The dealer said that one he sold, redrock, over turned and the driver said it wouldnt have happened if the hitch hadnt been a swivel \ as the previous tanker with standard eye never gave any trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 apparently without a swivel hitch you have a bit more resistance from over turning whereas if it can swivel it'll just go on over. The dealer said that one he sold, redrock, over turned and the driver said it wouldnt have happened if the hitch hadnt been a swivel \ as the previous tanker with standard eye never gave any trouble Sham that is bull poo If you think of the weight of a loader tanker, weight of a tractor, If the tank has already been given the push to get it over halfway that it won't land level again its over end of story, because once over halfway almost all its weight is on the wheel on the ground, the weight and momentum of that will just whip the tractor over with it if it is a smallish tractor, or break the toe eye, the fact that it not a swivel make no difference, all the swivel is doing is keepin the tractor on its wheels (hopefully) a rigid eye will not stop something of weight flipping It is drivers going too hard for what they are pulling is the problem, not the type of eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 I have to agree with Ricky there now -also a reason why several of the JQ sprayers have been rolled. Most wagons are now recommending these hitches too from what I hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuarty C Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 wow ladys.. im just sayin what i was told Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 wow ladys.. im just sayin what i was told Now young man you will not talk back in class!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 Now young man you will not talk back in class!! Checky bugger isn't he ;D Detention Stuarty :police: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakescot Posted January 7, 2010 Share Posted January 7, 2010 dont know much about the auto fill etc,. big farm nearest here has just bought a BIG conor its 2800 or 3000 and put a smithy made boom on it.they have 5 tankers now.....next door to him has a new hi spec 2500 .I do know round here our bumpy steep fields used to split the tank from the chassis on the Abbey tankers in particular. All kinds of tankers around here . major, conor,star, fraser,hi spec, marshall,abbey ( ours is an abbey) tullow, NC,malgar,redrock,vicon even a massive jwt weston . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich.new holland Posted January 8, 2010 Share Posted January 8, 2010 our abbey 1600 has split the chassie tooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 our abbey 1600 has split the chassie tooo Ah couple o hrs with the mig she'll sit tight again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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