bluegreen Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 I expect many here have seen the video on youtube of the new 670 Lexion combine that will be replacing the 570 model as CLAAS revamp the Lexion range for 2011 The combine outwardly features the new Tucano style cab and is half green now in terms of livery and certainly looks better than current model. The question is which model manufacturer will make one first in 1/32 and which model will they choose?? Bearing in mind most makers like to start at the top that would mean the 600s replacement with a 40ft split reel header however some like me may prefer a slightly smaller model with a header thats not going to cover the length of the mantlepiece I expect UH are well positioned with strong Claas links and the Tucano tooling for the cab already in the bag so what do you lot think? And how long will it take to appear, weeks,months, xmas, 2011?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manor Farm Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 please can we have a link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 I shouldn't think it will be far away in being in the R&D stages already to be honest. Next question. . . .. will the model be accurate enough for you! :laugh: :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordantaylor Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 a new combine is on the books for me so will it be the one for me to wait for due to me not having a claas combine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 is the 670 there to fool us,usually,protos have no model number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 i would guess at Siku being the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 i would guess at Siku being the first. Seeing as that 670 looks rather like the 580 sat on my shelf here... gimme a couple of hours and I reckon I could beat them to it!! /m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegreen Posted August 9, 2010 Author Share Posted August 9, 2010 I shouldn't think it will be far away in being in the R&D stages already to be honest. Next question. . . .. will the model be accurate enough for you! :laugh: :laugh: Hopefully this time if its a UH Lexion I expect it will get my royal seal of approval The clumsy siku 600 and featureless Norscott 580 both failed on that score Im thinking that a new UH release of a Lexion could come within days or weeks of the machines launch which is due this week apparently However Ive just seen another youtube video of a new Claas and this one calls itself a 750!!!! So god knows what numbering system is correct but its time for my 5yr old Britains CR980 (yes I know its as crap as Norscott 580 ) to be replaced so fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Im thinking that a new UH release of a Lexion could come within days or weeks of the machines launch which is due this week apparently <squeals with excitement like a teenage girl backstage at a Justin Bieber concert!!!!!!!!> :) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Oh Malc, :laugh: :laugh: Quality and cleaner than many similar sayings which won't be broadcast here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Well, *something* is happening... http://app.claas.com/countdown/en/ Friday, 19:00hrs BST is 'when'... 'What' is, so far, unknown! /m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 claas are doing a roadshow,ive had an invite to the starcross event near exeter on the 18th of this month,might be showing the new combines there,not sure though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 It does amaze me the amount if interest that a tucano cab and potential new engine (IT4) is generating.... Oh, not forgeting the small metal piece on the tracks.... Jez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I thought they had new rotors in the rotaries too though Jez as the previous ones' patent has come to an end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I thought they had new rotors in the rotaries too though Jez as the previous ones' patent has come to an end? Could be mate but i would be suprised.... Claas are the only company to spend less on R&D this year... Claas are having problems... This was reported int he German Financial Times: http://www.ftd.de/unternehmen/industrie/:agenda-maehen-und-dreschen-bei-claas/50148551.html Basically saying: "CLAAS is having a very bad Fiscal Year this year. The Turnover is even worse than last year which is the big surprise here. It seems that CLAAS is suffering a lot more than expected and compared to the other Ag Companies, CLAAS’s income 2010 is worse when all the other competitors are recovering slowly in 2010 versus 2009. As a result, this year CLAAS will have 1 billion € less turnover than they had in 2008.. The article reports as well about the conflicts between Cathrina CLAAS (Helmut CLAAS’ daughter) and the other persons of the senior management team.. The article says CLAAS employees are fed up with Cathrina CLAAS management style… " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 claas are doing a roadshow,ive had an invite to the starcross event near exeter on the 18th of this month,might be showing the new combines there,not sure though I'm going to the Manns event this Friday (weather permitting!) and according to the Claas UK website the New Lexions will indeed be there! Yip! Yay! etc! /m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Could be mate but i would be suprised.... Claas are the only company to spend less on R&D this year... Claas are having problems... This was reported int he German Financial Times: http://www.ftd.de/unternehmen/industrie/:agenda-maehen-und-dreschen-bei-claas/50148551.html Basically saying: "CLAAS is having a very bad Fiscal Year this year. The Turnover is even worse than last year which is the big surprise here. It seems that CLAAS is suffering a lot more than expected and compared to the other Ag Companies, CLAAS’s income 2010 is worse when all the other competitors are recovering slowly in 2010 versus 2009. As a result, this year CLAAS will have 1 billion € less turnover than they had in 2008.. The article reports as well about the conflicts between Cathrina CLAAS (Helmut CLAAS’ daughter) and the other persons of the senior management team.. The article says CLAAS employees are fed up with Cathrina CLAAS management style… " Blimey, not the best reading but I guess with their rapid growth over the last decade then a dip is more than due. Sure they will bounce back. Cathrina Claas is quite welcome to come and manage me mind! * :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcy_p Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Things could be worse for Claas. It's not a €1bn loss, but a €1bn drop in turnover. If for example the turnover last year was €10bn things are still pretty rosy considering the economic climate of late! Besides, how many combine customers are holding off replacing their Lexions until the new model comes out this Friday? I know I would be! /m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I'm going to the Manns event this Friday (weather permitting!) and according to the Claas UK website the New Lexions will indeed be there! Yip! Yay! etc! /m. nice one malcy,thanks for the info,only problem is i may be working at the farm now,where i work full time painting and decorating,work is drying up,so i said to boss if its that quiet,i would go to the farm,weather permitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Things could be worse for Claas. It's not a €1bn loss, but a €1bn drop in turnover. If for example the turnover last year was €10bn things are still pretty rosy considering the economic climate of late! Besides, how many combine customers are holding off replacing their Lexions until the new model comes out this Friday? I know I would be! /m. It was this part that is the worst bit: The article reports as well about the conflicts between Cathrina CLAAS (Helmut CLAAS’ daughter) and the other persons of the senior management team.. The article says CLAAS employees are fed up with Cathrina CLAAS management style… " They are Claas's core values.. that they are still a family company... nto good that she is upsetting the Claas boat. Also on another note the fiat group are talking of breaking up and selling the CNH ag and construction brands..... All interesting times it seems!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegreen Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 No doubt a glut of wheat rich euro farmers buying new gear in 2011 will solve most of the problems mentioned above Good to hear there are problems at CLAAS as I was beginning to believe all the hype of how wonderful they and all their dealers and products are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellarian Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Fiat have already announced the spin off of the CNH Ag & Construction, Iveco Trucks and Cursor Diesel into Fiat Industrial Group, still 100% owned but separates the heavy end of the business from the cars. http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE66K05020100721 Sharp eyed readers will have noticed the 'Fiat Group' grey square logo appearing on some CNH adverst in the professional press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianih634 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 It does amaze me the amount if interest that a tucano cab and potential new engine (IT4) is generating.... Oh, not forgeting the small metal piece on the tracks.... Jez A lot more to it than meets the eye Jez, there are quite a few differences in all :-X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 A lot more to it than meets the eye Jez, there are quite a few differences in all :-X you are the man in the know sir... Time will tell my friend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 i have heard its not just a replacement for the lexion 600 there is going to be a 700 range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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