BK741 Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 Bad pic of MF 3060 Bad pic of NH T7.235 MLT 625-75H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 Accident damage to MLT 735 120LSU after slipping into a ditch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Kit must rust like anything in your wet weather on livestock farms hey Ben? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 MLT 634 120 Lsu with hyd oil leak. Found bolt sheared and blown out o ring on main pressure hose form hyd pump Not to easy to get at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 MLT 840 137ps with leaking lift ram Supported boom and undid endcap fit new lipseal to end cap and refit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 MLT 632T, Rough looking Case IH 4230 and sad Ford 4100 New Holland T7.210 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Wow, that Ford 4100 looks a shed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Kit must rust like anything in your wet weather on livestock farms hey Ben? Not that bad,but most modern tractors ect have a lot of plastic now so no rust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wow, that Ford 4100 looks a shed! Old yard scrapper, came in for front axle repair in May! but was going to cost to much so hasn't moved since. It does have its front grill assy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 MLT 741-120Lsu owned by British Gypsum. Called on to site because it would not start, starter motor just 'clicking' Knowing the dust the machine works in throught the starter would be full of dust and packed up. Fitted new motor still the same! Found engine stuck and unable to turn over removed engine to transmission drive shaft engine turned over so problem in driveline. Phoned for help and after five hours with no drive or hyds a second Manitou and JCB Fastrac and low loader got her back tho the workshop. Removed main gearbox. This covered in plaster dust which has set and needs chipping off. Angle drive box still in On stripping down angle drive output shaft found bearing had collapsed locking the shaft up. The inner bearing race had friction welded its self to the shaft. Removed race but shaft damaged. Input shaft built up and ready to refit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Interesting topic this,thanks for keeping it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractortim Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Interesting topic this,thanks for keeping it going. i quite agree its always interersting to see other mechanics problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Great topic, good to see pictures like this like others said always intresting! Manitou must be one of the worst handlers going you seem to do hell of alot of work on them! We have 5 at work 3-05's an 12 plate and a rather old one, the only one that never breaks down is the old one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Great topic, good to see pictures like this like others said always intresting! Manitou must be one of the worst handlers going you seem to do hell of alot of work on them! We have 5 at work 3-05's an 12 plate and a rather old one, the only one that never breaks down is the old one! Thanks! There not that bad, well no worse then JCB or Merlo. We sell 20 to 30 Manitou's a year so plenty to breakdown, there are five of us in the workshop and I work on Manitou's all the time can't remember the last tractor I worked on but I am trained up on New Holland T7 range. The old Manitou's will go forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractortim Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Thanks! There not that bad, well no worse then JCB or Merlo. We sell 20 to 30 Manitou's a year so plenty to breakdown, there are five of us in the workshop and I work on Manitou's all the time can't remember the last tractor I worked on but I am trained up on New Holland T7 range. The old Manitou's will go forever! yeah same with us there always seems to be one broken down buts its only because we have so many out working nowadays! ultimatly there very reliable and not to bad to work on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 yeah same with us there always seems to be one broken down buts its only because we have so many out working nowadays! ultimatly there very reliable and not to bad to work on I think that any telescope handler tend to be abused more than tractors, every one drives it but no one 'looks' after it. Using the British Gypsum Manitou as a example, it is a 2004 machine with less than 2000hr on it. I rebushed the front carrage twice before it had done 600hrs the mount for the lift ram had to welded and line bored last year all because of a lack of grease. The hyd tank has been filled with fuel several times and the engine overheated because the radiator was full of plaster dust and no one had clean it out. I'm not saying all operators are bad I look after a 2007 MLT 634 120 LSU with 5500hrs and works on a diary farm Allways serviced every 500hrs it has done 1500hr this year and has never let the customer down. Greased every week the front carrage has never been rebushed and still tight. Spend a little time with these machines and they will keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractortim Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I think that any telescope handler tend to be abused more than tractors, every one drives it but no one 'looks' after it. Using the British Gypsum Manitou as a example, it is a 2004 machine with less than 2000hr on it. I rebushed the front carrage twice before it had done 600hrs the mount for the lift ram had to welded and line bored last year all because of a lack of grease. The hyd tank has been filled with fuel several times and the engine overheated because the radiator was full of plaster dust and no one had clean it out. I'm not saying all operators are bad I look after a 2007 MLT 634 120 LSU with 5500hrs and works on a diary farm Allways serviced every 500hrs it has done 1500hr this year and has never let the customer down. Greased every week the front carrage has never been rebushed and still tight. Spend a little time with these machines and they will keep going. definatly agree to thi s we have customers who never grease there always the first ones to say how much when they get the headstock re bushed the last one we actually gave a grease gun and box of grease cartriges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massey Boy Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Have to say i am not keen on the manitous at all, our 5 arnt the best looked after but they get serviced every six months and usualy cleaned off and get greased and stuff as they go out on hire. But they just seem to have contious problems, theres normaly a headgasket to do every 6 months ish , the 12 plate one had a new engine after about 100ish and had few other littel snags since which were done under warranty so it isnt as bad. The load sensing switches for the revs and hydrolic flow seem to fall off or the wires break at the ends so the machines always stall. The joy sticks have a habit of breaking so when your driving down the road the boom starts extending. This could be people driving round with the hand brake , but they always one in need of it being adjusted haha. I dont think the angle drive gear box is the greatest idear either, there are plenty of other things in summer they have habit of over heating haha. I think if they worked properly they wouldnt be bad handler, there defently built strong on the out side and dont exactly fall apart our ones just have a habbit of breaking down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 Have to say i am not keen on the manitous at all, our 5 arnt the best looked after but they get serviced every six months and usualy cleaned off and get greased and stuff as they go out on hire. But they just seem to have contious problems, theres normaly a headgasket to do every 6 months ish , the 12 plate one had a new engine after about 100ish and had few other littel snags since which were done under warranty so it isnt as bad. The load sensing switches for the revs and hydrolic flow seem to fall off or the wires break at the ends so the machines always stall. The joy sticks have a habit of breaking so when your driving down the road the boom starts extending. This could be people driving round with the hand brake , but they always one in need of it being adjusted haha. I dont think the angle drive gear box is the greatest idear either, there are plenty of other things in summer they have habit of over heating haha. I think if they worked properly they wouldnt be bad handler, there defently built strong on the out side and dont exactly fall apart our ones just have a habbit of breaking down! Yep OK if it was a Pekins engine in your 12 plate then it is a known problem and there is a mod campaign out at the moment but the new engine should of been modified. I have had no repeat failures after repair. In nearly 13 years of working on Manitou's I have NEVER done a head gasket on any model. If the engine are Perkins Vista (electric lift pump) the rads have to be spotless they may look clean but block the core from behind even with cleanfix fan. Check by dragging a piece of paper over the core at tick over, the fan should pull the paper all over the core if not remove rad section from cooling pack and blow/wash out. Check fan bearings, fan belt should be as tight as you can get it. Top hose can collasped on the inside and thermerstat break. If you are having repeat h/g fail the the block may need decking/skimming. If you mean the wires on the fuel injection pump pot the apply some silcone sealent to the wires and the top of the pot this seams to work and takes the strain of the wires. Joysticks and JSM levers can't do a lot with just make sure wiring doesn't rub any were. I have the same problem with hand brakes some machines never need adjusting and others need adjusting every 500hrs just make sure the slides are free in the caliper. The good old angle drive box! Lost count of how many I have rebuilt but can do with my eyes closed! Make sure the oil is at the correct level and changed every 1000hrs 2 1/4" L Sort any oil leaks asap as they soon run dry and knock the teeth of the bevel gears. Make sure the engine rpm is 930 to 950rpm. The gears have to have there preload and backlash set up which is very important to the life of the box. Specs for the setting up change quite a bit over the years. I think the box is on its way out of production and will go to Dana Spice box bolted to the back of the engine like in the new MLT 840. Here endith the lesson!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 definatly agree to thi s we have customers who never grease there always the first ones to say how much when they get the headstock re bushed the last one we actually gave a grease gun and box of grease cartriges! I know there are machines out there that only get greased when I service them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainswomble Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The Lambourghini glider winch tractor? Is there something special about it, or is it just an ordinary tractor on turf tyres painted yellow. Is it for pulling out the winch cable............... does it do sixty miles an hour......... will it launch a glider? ..........Sorry... my imagination is running riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractorbob Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 we run 2 pivot steer manitous 03 and 54 plate ones they have a lot of oil leaks but enjine wise they are very good also run a new holland l410 loadall good machine that .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK741 Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 The Lambourghini glider winch tractor? Is there something special about it, or is it just an ordinary tractor on turf tyres painted yellow. Is it for pulling out the winch cable............... does it do sixty miles an hour......... will it launch a glider? ..........Sorry... my imagination is running riot. Your right about it being yellow and having turf tyres but has air brakes fitted,NATO towing hitch and NATO electrics plug. It is used for towing the winch trailers around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractortim Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 if only you had a manitou hydraulic pump to fit tommorow ? good luck with it if your doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Very interesting thread. Keep the info and opinions coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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