NewHolland2 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Pics as requested...... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Is that on crab steer? If it is, why? All a bit new to me so sorry for being a gert thicko!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 because of the lengh of the machine it need the rear wheels to turn to get into the rows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 But why crab steer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 because then the back can swing round more than if it was just one set of wheels turning and the other fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 But crab steer makes it follow an offset path to the tractor. I can see why they need to steer for manoeverablity but why would you have it set in crab mode going up and down the rows, is it so the machine doesn't follow the tractors wheelings to reduce compaction or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 in those pics it isent in the rows and by the looks of it it has came out of the row hence why the wheels are in turned but i think there was just a bit of straw left in the machine so they have just cleared it out so tht will explain the pile of straw behind it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 But the pics sho it to be in crab steer - not correct if it is supposed to follow the tracot around at the end of the rows ??? ??? Mart, help us!!!! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 u realy have to see one working to understand it i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 I never knew you were blonde Tris!! ;D ;D Matty is correct I would think, makes perfect sense to me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 If you think of it like an 8 wheeler lorry, both the front axles steer on one of them to help it manouvre so this is basically the same, if you left the 8 wheeler with the wheels turned it would look like crab steer on the front. You do have to stand next to these machines to see how long they are really. I know there will be some working not far from Matty soon as i was carting muck there the other day and saw a big field of carrots with straw stacked up waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Thats right about an 8 legger Gav but thats coz the two axles are the only steering axle. On a rear steer artic lorry(similar configuration to this) the wheels steer in oppisite directions to the units own steer axle. Like a teleporter in 4 wheel steer mode. If the tractor steers to the right and so too does this thing it's pulling, it won't go round corners!! Try it with your toys!! One axle has to steer to the left to follow the other to the right like on slurry tankers. Or a spud lifter, the axle turns opposite direction to the tractor to swing it around. I know I'm right!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 right there are 2 fields near me which should be covered soon so when they do i will get a vid and show u coz it does work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Okellydokelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Cheers Mart for posting, I know I requested a while back, but I didn't forget. They're fairly lenghthy bits of kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Cheers Mart for posting, I know I requested a while back, but I didn't forget. They're fairly lenghthy bits of kit! No worries mate......Aye it's like an artic lorry combination...... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 were about in bonnie scotland are you from mart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 were about in bonnie scotland are you from mart the county of Angus, about 2 miles from Dundee mate...... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 have you ever heard of an outfit called gilfresh produce they grow some carrots some where cant remember where though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 have you ever heard of an outfit called gilfresh produce they grow some carrots some where cant remember where though Can't say the name rings any bells mate......All the carrots I can think of grown here are done on contract for Huntapac...... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Can't say the name rings any bells mate......All the carrots I can think of grown here are done on contract for Huntapac...... :) Me neither in all honesty... Huntapac is a HUGE name in Carrots though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 well he is based in co armagh but has 70 or 80 acres of carrots in scotland gets a contractor with a pile of deutz's to do most of the work. a mate of mine works to him and he also rents ground near dublin and carts the carrots back to his yard with tvt's and cvx's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Thats right about an 8 legger Gav but thats coz the two axles are the only steering axle. On a rear steer artic lorry(similar configuration to this) the wheels steer in oppisite directions to the units own steer axle. Like a teleporter in 4 wheel steer mode. If the tractor steers to the right and so too does this thing it's pulling, it won't go round corners!! Try it with your toys!! One axle has to steer to the left to follow the other to the right like on slurry tankers. Or a spud lifter, the axle turns opposite direction to the tractor to swing it around. I know I'm right!!! I think the problem Tris is having is that in the picture you can see that the wheels of the trailer are turned as if it is going around a corner, but the wheels of the tractor and the drawbar are straight ahead, leading to the question, why is the trailer steering when the tractor is not? This made me think the exact same thing as Tris about crab steer when I looked at it. The answer may be that, as you can see there is no-one in the cab, so maybe the driver swung around, straightened out, and stopped the engine before the wheels had a chance to steer themselves back to straight. Also, I'm not too familiar with these steering trailer set-ups, but looking at some of them, they seem to operate on a semi-hydraulic system, where the natural forces on the wheel steer the axle. This may be the explanation, but since I've only looked at that set-up on a trailer with one steering and one/two fixed axles, it might not be the same as for a pair of steering axles as seen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 WOW super mart you've made super pic's. Looks like a cool job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Hooooray!!!! James, your membership on here is greatly appreciated by me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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