Datman Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 snapped these pics while at the folks place this weekend. This is our old 5000, very much in need of a lick of paint Mechanically she is sweet as, just had a full engine rebuild only 150 odd hours ago. Only done about 3500 hours, farm owned since new. Doesnt see much work at all these days, hence just sittin in the shed and the birds are attacking it Trying to get the old boy to put it somewhere better so when i come to do her up its not any worse for wear! Apart from the paint probably one of the mechanically tidiest you'll ever see, given the low hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 mm havin probs with these pics but i think we're gettin there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Nice tractor. reminds me of the Ertl precision one. You ought to stop the birds pooping over it mate, try a shotgun, otherwise once the acid from the bird doodoo (high in Amonia Nitrate ) eats through the paint and gets in the metal you will never get it out and it will rust the tinwork right out in no time at all, nows the time to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Exactly what I was thinking Tim, take the birds out of the equasion and that would be one of the tidiest 5000's around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Very nice apart from the bird droppings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Money wise, as it is, worth a small fortune. Fully re-furbished, worth a lot lot bigger fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 at the very least sheet it over in the barn to stop the birds, would be a shme to see her just rust away for no reason ford or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 at the very least sheet it over in the barn to stop the birds, would be a shme to see her just rust away for no reason ford or not too right mate i wont let that happen, the old boy is under strict instructions to get it covered this week! Its got a lot worse in the last few months, not being used i guess. she really is a honey of a tractor, lots a sentimental value. i remember dad telling me he ordered it september ( 73 i think? ) and it didnt arrive till may, once it arrived it was straight into work breaking in the back half of our farm, pretty much spent most of its time on a howard rotary hoe breaking in scrub into pasture. When he bought it all the contractors were laughing at him for buying such a big tractor!! never mind all the hours i spent on it getting fried from the reflection off the white guards when i was a lad :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi6920 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Shes a good looker mate, will look better when you get the bonnet sorted i see what ypu mean about the diffrences in the perscion and your one, the model looks alot smaller than the real 5000 in 16th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 it does eh.. i think it must be the guards and the lack of a rops frame. still need to get some info on what versions are which, im not sure if our rig above is american or british version, looks the same as all american ones to me but the old boy is adamant it came from england Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudding Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 ya.......its a late 5000 dual power, late guards, and genuine i see probably got the engine done cause of porus block? and NZ safety frame too boot it ain't american Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 probably got the engine done cause of porus block? you're on the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 It looks like an American spec tractor because of the wider rear rims and tyres and also the position of the headlamps and different air pre-cleaner, the U.K or European spec ones had the headlamps in the grille lower down, this was because of the difference between the lighting regulations of the regions. You are all most probably correct in saying that it was British built but built for the American market. In late 1970's and through the 1980's huge numbers of this size Ford tractor were exported all around the world from secondhand tractor dealers and franchised dealers alike, I remember at our local D.B. dealers, about twice a year, two men would arrive in the yard in an expensive looking car, two men got out, one rather buisness looking type wearing a posh suit, the other was a big, let's call him an 'African' looking chap with a big lump of white chalk in his hand, again in a posh suit, and they would tour the yard with the owner looking over the secondhand tractors and the African would mark one back tyre on each of the 'chosen' tractors, we knew where they were off to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainswomble Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 That is an unusual tractor in as much as it has dual power and load monitor. Load monitor was a very unusual option on 5000's and more often found on 7000's. It was Ford's version of lower link sensing and intended for use with semi mounted ploughs etc, where a top link wasn't used. The rear wheels aren't that unusual, they are just optional 14 x 30's which around here were used to improve pulling power due to the smaller diameter and reduced the height of the tractor to improve stability on hillsides. It is an export version, as headlamps were always mounted in the grille for the UK, and the wing/seat frame wasn't available in this country. I'm not sure which market it would have been intended for; but about the time the 5000 was coming to an end we (Sussex Tractors) took delivery of part of a cancelled export order in the form of 12 crated (CKD) 5000's which all turned up on the same day. We fitted them with Lambourne weather /safety cabs and sold them to local farms. No doubt the order was larger than what we took, so it may well have been part of the same order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 That is an unusual tractor in as much as it has dual power and load monitor. Load monitor was a very unusual option on 5000's and more often found on 7000's. It was Ford's version of lower link sensing and intended for use with semi mounted ploughs etc, where a top link wasn't used. The rear wheels aren't that unusual, they are just optional 14 x 30's which around here were used to improve pulling power due to the smaller diameter and reduced the height of the tractor to improve stability on hillsides. It is an export version, as headlamps were always mounted in the grille for the UK, and the wing/seat frame wasn't available in this country. I'm not sure which market it would have been intended for; but about the time the 5000 was coming to an end we (Sussex Tractors) took delivery of part of a cancelled export order in the form of 12 crated (CKD) 5000's which all turned up on the same day. We fitted them with Lambourne weather /safety cabs and sold them to local farms. No doubt the order was larger than what we took, so it may well have been part of the same order. I assume that the term CKD means 'crated knocked down'. That's what we called it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainswomble Posted November 18, 2007 Share Posted November 18, 2007 I assume that the term CKD means 'crated knocked down'. That's what we called it. Thats the one. I know that's what Ford called them but couldn't remember what it stood for. Cheers buddy! What a gorgeous tractor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share Posted November 18, 2007 That is an unusual tractor in as much as it has dual power and load monitor. Load monitor was a very unusual option on 5000's and more often found on 7000's. It was Ford's version of lower link sensing and intended for use with semi mounted ploughs etc, where a top link wasn't used. The rear wheels aren't that unusual, they are just optional 14 x 30's which around here were used to improve pulling power due to the smaller diameter and reduced the height of the tractor to improve stability on hillsides. It is an export version, as headlamps were always mounted in the grille for the UK, and the wing/seat frame wasn't available in this country. I'm not sure which market it would have been intended for; but about the time the 5000 was coming to an end we (Sussex Tractors) took delivery of part of a cancelled export order in the form of 12 crated (CKD) 5000's which all turned up on the same day. We fitted them with Lambourne weather /safety cabs and sold them to local farms. No doubt the order was larger than what we took, so it may well have been part of the same order. thanks for the info mate!! I new the load monitor version was a unique one, its not the first ive seen over here tho. my uncle still has a 5000 of exact same spec, and its the main farm workhorse. has a front end loader and has had numerous rebuilds etc, its had a pretty hard life. the dual power is a pretty handy tool on these things. I used to do a lot of heavy mulching with it, ideal for when you hit a big lump to chew thru. pleased to say this wee girl has now had a good rub down and sports a nice new cover in the shed! Lookin forward to the day i can get a new coat of paint on it. Any idea what something like that would be worth in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britainswomble Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Judging the value of a tractor like yours is a bit difficult, mainly because when they are advertised they don't seem to have prices on them. Usually the advert says P.O.A. As it's an unusual spec tractor, in very good condition with low hours and the original cylinder block for its age; I would put a value of around four thousand pounds on it. Fully restored, in the case of this one; a repaint; it would probably fetch around five to five and a half at a good auction. Anyone else like to pass their opinion on this little peach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 A Ford 4000 seen in Louisiana May 2007 It has got inset headlamps in the grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I assume that the term CKD means 'crated knocked down'. That's what we called it. CKD stands for Completely Knocked Down ie completely crated up with wheels and axles taken off, as opposeed to PKD or Partially Knocked Down, where they just took the wheels or tyres off and ran them on wooden temporary 'wheels' @Datman: nice 5000 there. If you put up the serial number we should be able to tell you where and when she was made. the serial no. can be found on a sticker underneath the bonnet or (I think?) stamped on the bell housing behind the starter motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 oooh that be excellent, ill chase it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Looks by the rear wheels and headlamps in grille that it could be one of many that were exported from the U.K in the late 70's-80's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 well according to my sources the stamp says tractor no. D216459. and unit no. 3K18B. was purchased in 1974. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDFord Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Inside the back cover of the Allan T Condie book " Ford tractors 1964 - 1975 "the serial no translates as - 3K18B = Manufactured 18/10/73 on the day shift D216459 built at A = Detroit B = Basildon C = Belgium (Antwerp?) Doesn't say anything about a D prefix ?? 216459 = serial no. Dont know the accuracy of this , but I hope its of some help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datman Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 could be a misinterpretation on my part, old lady read the numbers out over the phone, so in fact 'D' could be 'B'. or she could be blind thats good info though thanks very much! most interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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