Andy

Probably £70 to £100. Going by recent ebay sales anyway.

Good to hear this is going ahead.

Diesel Particulate Filters! Pointless invention and a costly one at that!

Due to an unforseen issue with the venue, the next Farm Toy and Model auction will be on Feb 1st 2012. The Christmas Party season has unfortunately caused an issue for which there was no option but to postpone the sale. The catalogue will however be available this week.

I have split this topic away from the main releases topic so this discussion can continue and new releases can be left for the new releases. Some interesting opinions being posted. I think as a collector, I can appreciate UH releasing what they are and in the manner that they are doing. I guess its only getting into line with what other diecast hobbys have been doing for years. What does concern me though is in 12 months, these models will be being dumped at 1/3 of their original value. For the excellent models that they are, I would say this would be a great shame as A) they are not doing the real machine justice and it devalues the values of collecting (if that makes sense). I can't help but think that a greater margin for the manufacturer would also be achieved if resources pointed torwards releasing 3-5 different tooled items at once rather than 3 - 5 identically tooled items. I also think it enhances the collectable nature of the products with enthusiasts being more inclined to purchase 3 - 5 models (from the same tooling) over a staggered release period of 2/3 years than if they were all released at once.

I believe Springfields has an overnight security guard Sue.

The Spalding show is organised by Colin Boor.

Doesnt sound good Barry! Post her up when she gets home safely!

I forgot to add that it would be an April show that this would be latched on to.

I have spoken to Colin about the discussion we have been having on here and he certainly appreciates that space is the issue when it comes to displays, dioramas and generally as a problem point for expanding the show. He was in agreement that it would probably add something to the event too but of course there would be factors to consider before any additional firm planning decision was made. However, IF FTF was to play a role in sourcing and managing a marquee to bolt on to the exisiting show (as an initial step for developing the event), could we: 1. Count on the support from you, the membership, to help fill it with displays, dioramas and anything else we can think of to enhance the event? 2. Would FTF members be more inclined to attend as visitors? I must stress that nothing has been agreed as additional costs, car parking and other technical bits and bobs would need to be resolved. That said, there is potential here, so lets carry on the discussion / debate. I would be interested in those who would be on the borderline or attending as visitors of exhibitors, in terms of particular requirements or conditions you may place on making a decision?

I also forgot to add I was talking to a well known collector on Thursday who laid claim to owning 25 DDN Fordson Chad Valleys!

Was anyone successful on those Fordsons last weekend? Thanks for the link Sue. I think that model is an Empire Made Fordson. These were slightly smaller than the chad valleys, but all the same, finding them, is proving increasingly difficult! edit! The seller correctly describes it as Empire made in the description, but calls it Chad Valley in the Title.

Nice find Erik. We have the unmade kit and also the assembled model. Did you get a good deal?

Classic clarkson. The media have also cut out half of what he actually said last night too, of which brings his comments into context and actually makes them inoffensive. \ You're right though Mike, anyone who takes anything Clarkson does say serious, probably should be executed.

Just merged the two topics..

These are in addition. I hope they all don't come out at once though.

Thanks for the pictures David.

I think Spalding is still a good location (you may think I'm biased!!) but with the new road now being finished, it cuts travel time from Peterborough down to about 15 minutes. It does not however solve the issue of room for dioramas and displays. For a fair sized lined / floored marquee (400 m 2), it would probably cost around £1500 to £3000 as a bolt on to the event. It would then perhaps be an idea (to trial for starters) the concept of introducing displays and layouts into this, along with a few other new components. All combined with an attempt at a two day event. If this additional space can be filled and can be seen to increase visitors to the show (over the course of the two days), it would perhaps give greater scope to then build a plan of eventually "upping sticks" to a larger exhbition venue.

I notice there is a fine selection of Chad Valleys on a well known internet auction site at the moment. There is even a repainted yellow Fordson, which in my opinion is already vastly over priced!

I think farm buildings have an advantage when cost comes into the equation but I think it would be too big a compromise. That said, the new show in Feb is in a converted farm.

I would like to think something could evolve from the Spalding april event. It has only been in the last 4 - 5 years that farm layouts and custom building seem to have really kicked off. It did of course, go on before but the following for it was far less than now. I guess thats why Spalding (at least in April) became the show to go to because it is great for buying / selling. As each year goes on though, the hobby evolves and new aspects certainly need integrating into the show. There is no denying that with the internet, many people who previously attended spalding for the new model releases, no longer do so. This in turn reduces show sales for exhibitors and then morale drops. For those interested in customs, brochures, older models and other bits and pieces, I would argue there is still no better event in the UK but there HAS to be something for everyone and something to generate enthusiasm for those visitors attending, but more importantly, provide incentive for those who do not attend.

It will be interesting to see how the new show does in February. The venue is large and purpose built but the organisers have no real connection in the Hobby. Asking around at the weekend and at Newark, there seems to be little enthusiasm for the show. \

The trouble with some of the larger venues (I can think of a zwolle-esque one in peterborough) is the cost. For example, if the show was moved, could the majority of people reading this be sure that they would attend, either as a visitor or perhaps supporting the show with a layout or custom models on display? It seems a good show is as much about the passion and support from people attending than the venue, which I think is why zwolle is so good. In my opinion, that passion and support for a single event is perhaps not replicated as much over here. I guess partly due to there not being one particular show that stands out from the crowd. Many people choose between toytrac, spalding, penrith, Moira, Portrush and others, which is of course fair enough due to costs but if there was one significant stand out Zwolle type event boasting superior room, more stands, facilities, customs, dioramas + the complete works, would you attend it? Even if you lived over 100+ miles away, or in another country perhaps. And if not, why? Honest answers please too! But If the answer is yes...lets get to it then

I think the problem is space Ol. The venue at Spalding is probably a 1/4 of that at Zwolle. I have spoken to the organisers about mixing it up more at Spalding on a number of occasions but selling space vs allocating free space for layouts and custom displays is seen as a no brainer (in favour of selling). Your right though. It does knock the socks off anything here in the UK :'(

Joe. They have incorperated that system into the model but its not as straight forward as just raising it. There are some screws to tinker with first.