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Whilst in roadworks on the M25 it was quite funny watching people slow down for average speed cameras and then speed up again after passing them, laughing so much I missed my exit 

I thought the Dowdeswell green was the colour in your photograph, as shown with the reversible. Or is this the same colour as the tipping trailer/post hole digger?

By a strange coincidence, I suppose, I was looking at 9550 Fold up cultivator mounted to one of these plinths earlier. Very nice, would like them in my collection.

Bought at auction? Did these come in boxes Andy? with a letter on? Also on the little label with the model no. is there another no. and the RRP?

I've found the best place to store them is in cabinets, bonus being you can view them as well   

I also use those self sealing bags in a variety of sizes along with trade boxes when available!

The difficulty with these other "lesser" known makes is information appears to be very thin on the ground. To help matters even less some manufacturers didn't even bother to mark their products.

I have a few farmers, one *** and a possible Timpo and Charbens ones, although I'm sure both of these manufacturers marked their toys, the latter looks to be from a lead mould.

Pictures as promised

Clive when you say second type timber trailer do you mean the same but with plastic wheels and tyres and in a blue, white and brown(black?) box?

I know, off topic.........................again    but hey its interesting 

176F/9537 in packing case box

When you say Picture Pack I presume you mean Duck and Egg boxes.

Available in Duck and Egg boxes to my, limited and by no means exhaustive, knowledge:-

130F Tipping Trailer, with picture of contents;

138F 4 Furrow Plough, with line drawing of contents to side of box;

174F Muledozer, no picture of contents.

138F and 174F using the same type/size of box as per the Cultivator of ploughmaster .

138F in a long thin box with a colour picture on the front also in a packing crate box without end flaps;

135F Disc Harrow and 136F Roller with colour picture of contents;

173F 3 Furrow Plough with printing to side of box stating contents, no picture of contents.

Not forgetting the Clockwork Trailer, the one I have is not a duck and Egg box, and the Timber Trailer. I don't recall ever seeing this last item in the Duck and Egg box but would imagine that they were issued this way as the E27N tractors were.

Some pictures to follow.............memory willing 

I think the size was chosen to be similar to the size of the originals (to avoid the consequent lack of sharpness/clarity that would have resulted from enlarging the scans of the original catalogue pages).  1970 to '79 is a good starting point - there is a lot of interest in this era, but availability of catalogues for these years is rather limited (and expensive) compared with the ones from the 1980's onwards. It was also quite an exciting decade when there were a lot of changes/new additions to the ranges, whereas the changes from year to year in the 60's were quite few.   

Point taken, definitely expensive 

Perhaps David might be persuaded to do a similar excercise for the earlier issues (1960 to '69), but it would require the access to all the relevant catalogues (and price lists  ), which might have been an issue?.  It will also probably depend how successful this edition is.

I was thinking more along the lines of '63 onwards, to include the leaflets. Tracking these all down may take some time   I don't know too much about earlier, pre '63, customer catalogues, I know they were available as pocket editions, presumably as miniaturised versions of the trade ones. I have a couple, from 1955 and '59 but not the relevant trade editions...........as yet! or price lists.

. I've had another good look at the picture of it in the '76 trade catalogue, and I am still inclined to think they are the green wheels as fitted to the Kubelwagen and some of the guns (the mouldings were the same as those used for the single axle horse box), but the pictures aren't large/clear enough to be absolutely certain.

Thanks for that, looks possible that there may have been '/64' editions of the others too    More to look for!

I think I see what you are getting at, the wheel centres (in BLUE  ) are all the same with regard size/style but the horse box has much chunkier tyres fitted it . As you said the picture is too small to be realy sure.

More to look for!.............you and me both.

I have only ever seen two of the Swappet leaflets and I own one of them, thanks david_s, the other on EBay a little while back. Have seen a few of the farm ones, all the same though, and yes they are not cheap either!!!!

First and foremost I have this book, a Christmas present no less! and well worth the money (I hope my niece got a good deal  )

Not meaning to denigrate it in anyway, its a shame it was not in a slightly bigger format and why not start with the '63-4 leaflets and so on? I would also liked to have seen the price lists printed in their entirety as some price omissions are not explained/obvious, where an item is shown in the catalogue. This seems to be where the '76 catalogue is concerned.

Okay, the 1976 trade catalogue is nothing like the customer one, its very similar to the 1975 trade and customer one, as these(trade ones) are the same(as customer ones) but with an extra bit on the bottom of the page(s) If the '76 customer one had been based on the trade catalogue it would have been so much better, but there you have it!!!!

The Ford 6600 is shown/listed as new but the MF 135 is not so perhaps this was issued towards the end of 1975?

With regard the High sided tipper cart I always thought this was shown on blue wheels as per the Bamford baler?

Also noticed that the '74 and '75 catalogues show the trailer with the production standard Land Rover wheels.

The '76 customer catalogue was/is a pretty poor effort I think.

'63-4 leaflets

I have these Zoo ones, SA 38 and SA 38/64. My version of the latter being in French with printed on prices, in Francs. This one has the three enclosures and railings instead of trees.

With regards the farm, floral and eyes right leaflets I have the ones listed by ploughmaster.

It begs the question...........where did you buy it from?

To confirm ploughmaster, I have all three versions and they are all like the one shown in box.

Maybe its a new, modified, batch!

UH strike again    a bit harsh I suppose as they accurately model what is in front of them, rightly or wrongly. A little more research wouldn't go amiss, methinks 

There is a good picture of a Jubilee 7810 in Stuart Gibbards book The Ford Tractor Story part 2, but it is near on impossible to tell what colour the roof and wings are though.

Are these UH models easy to take apart?

What is the difference between a Blue Power and the normal versions?

Some great pictures there David, I didn't seem to get much time for photo's, although I did take quite a few of that 1124...my favourite tractor at the show. What a superb restoration, but then what a good starting point, 1300 hrs was it? and then a stint in a museum stateside! Puts mine to shame, well almost as its got over 9000 hrs on the clock a true work horse you might say, albeit slumbering at the moment.

Getting back to topic, the Perkins engined N apparently was fitted with an engine from a Sherpa van, turbocharged at that. Does it qualify for vintage ploughing matches?

The JCB aircraft tug  looked to be based on a Fordson Major skid unit with their own front axle design and tin work being either JCB3 or 4

I did get the removal procedure right then

Two fully glazed cabs equals two early cabs, harder to come by as only made for two years, until the loader tractor was introduced.

Carefully!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, I don't remember doing this but I do have a removed loader in front of me, so must have removed it myself as it is broken on end where bucket should be mounted. The part inside the cab needs to be eased off of the locating pins at the bottom of the loader rams, outside, and then the two pieces can be withdrawn from the cab/windows.Probably not as easy as it sounds because I think the window frame gets in the way a little. Easy to break the window frame too   

I hope this is some, little, help 

What colour is the tedder orange or green?

The Ford set 9590 was first released in 1972. The only thing that changed was the Tractor from the 1969 6Y model through the square cab 5000 to the 6600. Deleted end of 1979.

The MF set 9592 was released in 1977. Changed to your version in 1981. The Lely Tedder was deleted end of 1981( reintroduced at a latter date with different colour and number) The tractor was replaced with a Ford TW20  and the cultivator, deleted end of 1981, was replaced with the mini trailer. This was replaced with the Kidd roller in 1983. The mower was replaced by a Vicon Vari spreader in 1985, the mower was only available in this set from 1984. Set deleted end of 1985

Sorry got a bit carried away 

Hope this helps

Anybody read A G Street, fascinating books.

Read them all bar one...................Fair Enough, cannot find this one  :'( 

I have some doubles if interested

Found this old chap minus gun and walking stick

Also this sheep dog....is it a Britain's one \ \ . Has England on its undercarriage ;)

The dog started life as a Herald model in 1957, yours dates from between 1964 and 1970 after which it was replaced by a new moulding/model. The ENGLAND marking gives this time line apparently making it a Britains model as they merged/bought Herald out in 1959.

License for your sawn off and cudgel sir? That hat is looking a bit chewed too!

Looking forward to this Mr D.............................. save me having to buy a load more back numbers   

Signed copies?

In no particular order:-

blue chassis and wheels,

blue chassis and yellow wheels,

green chassis with blue wheels,

grey chassis and blue wheels.

I think the grey is similar to/ the same as the MF chassis colour

I'm sure I've seen a green chassis with yellow wheels so it wouldn't surprise me if there was a grey chassis with yellow wheels.

The latter versions did not use an elastic band and let the bale drop out in front of the chute! The yellow wheeled version I have is like this

There should be a small lug to catch/hold the PTO lever on the power farm versions. These are still present on the non powered models. Perhaps somebody has carved it off?

I think thats also a reflection of real farming in the UK??? Hardly any workers left on farms or livestock 

I think this depends more on where you live, plenty of livestock down here.

I haven't read the whole thread, because none of this is my thing at all (I only collect 'Ancient Britains', certainly pre 1970, preferably pre 1940), but I take it that Britains has pretty much given up on people & animals?

They still list livestock sets, some on limited availability, and three standing figures with a dog............limited availability too, along with horses and riders. These in the 2010 autumn catalogue. No loose ones anymore. The shepherd has finally been pensioned of and the scarecrow burnt/fell apart 

Its authentic alright. Been a few on EBay of late, last one was £70+

Like this?

http://www.farmtoysforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,20765.msg382022.html#msg382022

Can you get some pictures?

I bought one of these red chassis jobs a few weeks ago. The skip appears to be the same colour as the Autoway tractors etc so can only presume that it was made using up some parts left over from Autoway production as per the yellow Bauer tanker variation. Usual Britains practice! The blue and red Rear Dump was still available after the demise of the Autoway series.

mreyder your trailer looks to be the same orange colour as the Road Series models. How does it compare against the Dynapac roller or others from this series?