Fendt Fahrer Posted December 27, 2005 Share Posted December 27, 2005 I for one would like to see a Fendt 936 with UH quality. I would buy a pile of them. I have been very critical of the Siku version before and I still dont like it any better. Many of the key feature like the new front axle cab lighthing and cab suspension are not represented. Plus siku still make their pathetic front 3pt hitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Agreed, would really do the tractor justice it would yes indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I agree UH would get it spot on if can do it MF 8480 would be just as good/better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Sure it nearly is a fendt, Green all the way, no matter the shade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Only the gearbox is Fendt and thats it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 EH Taillights, seats are soon to be that same if not already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 According to my local dealer only the gearbox and rear axle are Fendt rest is massey not sure about seat etc but i dont see why they need to replace that the 8200 seat was very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 John Deere seat all the way ha ha! Give it time it'll turn out the way New Holland Has done with Case, Wish every manufacture would keep the same instead of part sharing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I agree agco say they wont join products but i reckon they will in end no matter how much i dont want it to happen that is why i would have a MF 6499 over a MF 8450 as 6499 is pretty much all massey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 Yea fair enough hi, gd point, but hi i'd have a 135 over a 6499, ha ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted January 3, 2006 Share Posted January 3, 2006 I'd have a 8250 over a 6499 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoRn_1987 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 whell... I think a Fendt 936 moddel by UH would be great... that big white thing on the cab of the siku moddel to stear looks awfull... about the fact agco vs fendt... I think that the big acgo logo on the stearing wheel looks not that great on the 2 new fendt moddels... it makes it a different tractor, it's not really a fendt anymore... the only fullblood tractor on the market is john deere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Not sure if John Deere is strictly speaking, a full blood though. Yes the brand name is that of the company and wholly owned by the Deere Corporation but... The only people John Deere have to thank for their ingenuity, technology and market presence in the EU etc are the Germans. In the same way Fendt and Claas are leaders in their fields, John Deere can join them only thanks to German designers. The nation lay the standards for all the others to follow hence why AGCO bought Fendt and why Deere literally rebuilt all their US factories to the same standard as their German counterparts. So all though full blood in namesake, Deere are very much more a European company than an American nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 if you had posted that very true reply on tts you would have been lynched by now, :D :D :D and a victim of some weekend fighter piolts friendly fire by tommorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 Oh yeah, they're all stars and stripes on there arn't they?!! I'm not a member but feel free to cut and paste!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 i ain't that brave mate,i cherrish my life :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Not sure if John Deere is strictly speaking, a full blood though. Yes the brand name is that of the company and wholly owned by the Deere Corporation but... The only people John Deere have to thank for their ingenuity, technology and market presence in the EU etc are the Germans. In the same way Fendt and Claas are leaders in their fields, John Deere can join them only thanks to German designers. The nation lay the standards for all the others to follow hence why AGCO bought Fendt and why Deere literally rebuilt all their US factories to the same standard as their German counterparts. So all though full blood in namesake, Deere are very much more a European company than an American nowadays. I would call full blood more like its only one tractor company making them, not like weather or not what country is designing or building them, deere is not eu or american, more global, but they still are working within their own, not asking other tractor companies for designs, cause deere are simply the best!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 More of a point of where the big American giant owe there good fortune really. Strictly speaking they are not a out and out US company anymore. Like Landrover to the UK, without that backstabbing deal by BMW the name Landrover would be in the mud in more ways than one!! Shame to say it I know. . . .. .. thinks back to the 86in series 1 * Like I said and as you also wrote, Deere are the only major company true to their name just not necessarily their roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 I'M CONFUSED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallclaas Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Just to confuse the issue a bit more, is it true that the new MF models share engine components with Valtra. I can remember reading somewhere that Valtra parts were used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Probably, they used to have Sisu engines. As for the latest though I have lost touch with it all. I'M CONFUSED You post this a lot Ricky!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Cause u lot confusing sometimes, its just the way some things are worded thats all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted February 9, 2006 Share Posted February 9, 2006 In response to small claas about the MF engines they use the same engine company to valtras, Sisu is a seperate comany to valtra but yes they do share engine componoents but they do run different there are a few changes etc and i think MF use the larger ones and valtra use smaller 6 and 7 litre engines, MF have used sisu engines since the alte 90's on the MF 8000 series on the 8160-8180 i think long before agco bought sisu and valtra i think so its always been like that sisu were really mainly used on the 8200 series from the 8250-8280 (8240 having a 6.6l perkins) and now in the 64's etc from the 6485 and 7485 upwards Hope that helps in anyway possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallclaas Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Thanks for that MF fan, I read this month in Profi that Valmet is now part of AGCO so I suppose that were going to see more similar parts being used throughout Fendt MF and Valtra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 back a few years now i jumped into a big valmet at the time & found myself sitting in an MF 3000 series cab. the 3680 & 3690 used sisu engines for their big masseys & cheaper than designing a big tractor for themselves valmet took the two big 36's & changed the bodystyling completely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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