MODELFARMER Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Guys What machines exist that can be used over ploughing partically (or more) break up the soil in a fast pass, The most obvious one is discs, but i wan something that levels the soil too, Uses low horsepower/draft requirements, Its for those soils that really need two passes with a powerharrow before sowing to get a fine enough tilth, If my 1 pass is on my 6930 I'd be using it with my 3050 or 6420s, I don't want the expense of another power harrow something that can do the job fairly quickly, Are the leveling boards in front of the cambridge rollers a large horsepower/draft requirement??? Links pictures etc of how well different machines do the job and if my two fore mentioned tractors could work with them and rough costs of operation would be fantastic from anybody who uses such implements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Simple dutch harrow or similar Ricky is all you need. Levelling board, few tines/pegs and crumbler. We have an older operation. 8ft one bought for IR£300 about 15 years. Has cost nothing this year as nothing broke. Only on a 64hp with no tyres and doing about 3.5 to 4 acres /hr. Tractor seem sto burn very little diesel. Friend has a similar system to you but only one tractor. He has a 15ft KV springtine harrow and can break down 6-7 acres an hour with a 100hp tractor. He often drills 40 acres a day on his own by being up early breaking down and then sow till late. Most around here have moved away from ring rollers with breakers on them. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hmmm interesting U Have any pics of the job it does? Remember we have stones, are these an issue, are these still built or is it a 2nd hand machine now only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Found this but would like the same going by your machine for a couple of "Noughts" less "laugh out loud" http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=190374667320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Hmmm interesting U Have any pictures of the job it does? Remember we have stones, are these an issue, are these still built or is it a 2nd hand machine now only I have somewhere but can't find them at the minute. Stones are not a major issue - might just lose a few tines or tips that is all. Can be built by anyone really to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schw84 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 You want a simba toptilth if the ground has dried out once ploughed, but you would need to put the tines in deep behind the wheels else it leaves bad marks. This year we managed to get away with a Simba cultipress, and trailed another home made press behind that did the job nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 It only usually needs a light run in front of the drill, Half a power harrow job if ye understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM190 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Front linkage, Power harrow.. One pass on back.. Tighten up the deere and your driving skills to get in gates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schw84 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Everyone is drilling beans at the moment (mainly cos Birdseye have Fubar'd everyone around me) but they are all running around with tines at moment, single pass and that is breaking it up nicely, then drill with the vaderstad. The problem with all these trailed machines is you need speed, we have found that if you don't have speed then it wont smash it up. I can only speak from past experience of machines, but the toptilth was king until we got a cultipress. We used to have to pull the toptilth with a crawler in some conditions to get the speed as you would need more than 180hp to pull the 4m one nicely with some of our soil, the cultipress is good as it is just, leveling plates, tines and DD rings, lift the front out and the leveling plates and you will pull that easily, they do a 3m one, second hand they aren't ridiculous money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Front linkage, Power harrow.. One pass on back.. Tighten up the deere and your driving skills to get in gates! U buy me the linkage + pto pack i'll buy the harrrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 springtines proven, cheap, simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 BOMFORD Dyna-Drive? -particularly if the ground hasn't been frosted. If it has then of course the job is almost done by any tined machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I would agree with Archbarch... Spring tines mate.... you woukld find a good second hand spring tine around and these sometimes have rollers and levvelling boards.... What about trailed? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/shaunvandenbos/category%208-cultivation%20equipment/S4011/S4011a.jpg That kind of thing. or: http://www.cousinsofemneth.co.uk/body_packa-rollas.html Or send Blake to poland on the 6420s?? http://www.farmingmachines.co.uk/machinery/M08360 Seriously though, I would say that 4100 ponds amy be a lot but you could pick up a springtine like the first one for a few hundred..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Agree with Jez there as well - no need for great expense. Tines or a Dutch harrow - ideal. Some pictures from 3 years ago Ricky. I'll just show you the ones I have where we went in on the rough sod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Frontal view: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurodeere Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Dyna drive doesn't want it to be wet. The original post was something to replace two passes of the powerharrow, I'm not sure there is anything. What about a Vaderstad Carrier or a Watkins quadtill: http://www.philipwatkins.co.uk/Bespokequadtil.htm http://www.philipwatkins.co.uk/quadtil.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Agree with Jez there as well - no need for great expense. Tines or a Dutch harrow - ideal. Some pictures from 3 years ago Ricky. I'll just show you the ones I have where we went in on the rough sod. Likin the look of this, Spring tines leveling board and crumbler roller or packer sound like what i'm after, now anyone got a 3m one that'll sell for sweetie money? ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 perfect for you ricky soon make them fit your rollers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Them paws on the rollers are a great tool they will tackle any thing and still leave a nice seed bed, there very good for filling up an open furr left by the plough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 hmmm At the minute we roll the ploughing with no boards like these, Wonder how much they cost to buy roughly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 never look back at anything else, contractor thinks he can sow upto 3-4 mph faster using these rollers, cant see them costing that much to add on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 never look back at anything else, contractor thinks he can sow upto 3-4 mph faster using these rollers, cant see them costing that much to add on! how many spring tines are on it? 6.2metre version i assume? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistol pete Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 we used to use a hay harrow but use the rollers with the boards fitted. great things alot of farms around us use them to. they make a good job and when you finish lift the boards then you are ready to roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 aye shes 6.2 there is 24 tines on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 aye shes 6.2 there is 24 tines on it Spaldings here we come . . . . Don't suppose the part number is still visable on em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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