JEP Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Calling on all MF experts... Are there any (external) differences between the red cabbed & the red/silver cabbed MF 590's?, so if (I say if, as I don't know if there are any other changes to the HMT model - having only seen a small picture of it) the U-H 590 HMT edition is just the top half of the cab painted silver - would it be accurate? Also while on the subject of 590's - think I read on here somewhere that the 590 4wd is longer than the 2wd 590, is that the case, and if so by how much (bonnet length/wheelbase etc) Any info much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 the silver topped one is correct, usally they were uk built ,only major difference was the early ones like this used to have just one door, on the left as you looked down the tractor, but later ones were twin doored, as to the lenght, marky will be able to tell you the difference there, although from memory it was the tombstone that added the extra length so the 4wd axel could be fitted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Indeed so... the 590 4wd is a longer vehicle... with the extra length being taken up in the front of the machine as Sean rightly says. For this reason you will find that the bonnet side panels are very different as they 'absord' the extra length. Aside from the extra door on the late silver cab/red cab the front grill was also changed around this time too. Early models have fixed headlights and a shorter grill... later models have a one pices front grill with the headlights in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEP Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 Many thanks Sean & Mark for your replies/info. On this basis - would the 590 4wd be suited to converting into the longer 595 2wd, or was this a different tractor again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 mm thats mnore marks area, the rear arches would be wrong either way, am guessing it would pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 not really... the 595 was a different beast... cab position is different... and so is the wheelbase/axle position on the model... not forgetting of course the bonnet which is a totally different shape \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 i have driven both the 595 and the 590 over the years,,yes the 595 was certainly not as good a tractor as the 590 but i have in the past given thought to making a 595...the rear wheel arches would have to be extended at the back and the 595 has a totally different shape bonnet if you look at it from birds eye view...But the 1 major snag in making a 595 is not the arches nor the bonnet but the engine compartment...The 595 has engine side rails which support the whole engine,a feature not on any other 500 range model...to get this correct you would need to find a donor with side rails and slice it in half and add the 590s back end,tricky even to find a donor which is why none of us have ever seen a good 595 conversion to date..this problem stumps even me who is not afraid of a challenge,another thing is that all early and most common 595 examples came on PAVT rims and a bigger wheel size than the 590,again not easy to track down,if you could beg Matryns farm models to sell you a set of 1080 front and rear rims you,d be elected for the 595s wheels...sorry if ive turned you off now but there all important factors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 last good 595 i saw was on a britains jd4020 chassis to get the side rails, its on here somewhere, and for the life of me cant remember who did it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 ah yes sean,that was exactly the donor i had in mind,until i studied the engine,its totally different but is one of very few half suitable donors for the job..i studied it for ages and in the end discarded the whole idea of using a 4020,but im still on the lookout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 thats it, know the chassis had work, but its the closest i have seen to a 595 so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I reckon that's bang on actually.... certainly the best I've seen I thnk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEP Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Thanks again for all the info, didn't realise the 595 was such a different tractor from the rest of the 500's - just thought it was a more powerful version of the 590. You live & learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 595 basically... a 1080 in new clothes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEP Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 Didn't realise that, think we need to pressure Mr Reeves into updating his 1080 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Didn't realise that, think we need to pressure Mr Reeves into updating his 1080 then that's a blooming good idea JEP.... go to the top of the class.. and we'll have a 1250 too.. as that was just two 595 backends as well * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 i like that little 595 there,ive never seen that 1 before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 knew someone had done it on a jd chassi brian , just for the life of me couldnt think who, is a nice number i must say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eurodeere Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 So, when did MF introduce the two door cab, the sliding window and the one piece grill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I have kind of missed this HMT thing can someone enlighten me? Reason, number produced, price, what HMT is and the style of box it comes in please? \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 box is a special mf dealer coloured one tris, got the hmt logo on the side cost me 25 quids limited to 1500, i guess each numbered but mines not coming out of the box reason??? no idea really, guess it was only a matter of time before uh did it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 So what is HMT then? Is it an accurate UK version then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 So what is HMT then? Is it an accurate UK version then? isnt hmt like a club,similair to the lcn etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 not sure tris, like paul said i think its a club of some sort, i noticed on the bottom its got tractorconnections.nl in the print, so i guess neils may know whos behind it?? think thats martin smitts sites isnt it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Better just get one anyway then I suppose. . .. I have driven one after all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 So, when did MF introduce the two door cab, the sliding window and the one piece grill? lord fergy is the guy to ask, but i think the 2 door cab and sliding window was 1979 the 1 piece grill 1981/82 when the cabs went all red, except the roof that stayed silver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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