tractorboy Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Oakley farms has some real good high spec farm kit so itll all be on what the model markers have for sale & how much pocket money he ll get id think Edited February 11, 2015 by tractorboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Weise have a lovely SAME FORTIS 180 on the way, my model farm will be trading one of their black 718s for one. Listening to users of machines is a great way to learn about weak points and it's not easy pleasing everyone, disrespectful drivers can wreck any machine and using the vario as a brake will shorten the life span. Edited February 12, 2015 by B O R 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0025 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 i have got a valtra hopefully replacing one of the older tractors on my layout, but claas and fendt all the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 With all due respect I find this a pretty silly statement (no matter who says it). If you lease a tractor it is in your books therefore you own it. Stacking up the figures in most cases rental or lease works out better. Rather than shouting I OWN a tractor I would focus on what costs me per hour. @Alex: Fair enough, spoiled drivers you have . And @Paul I reckon these tests will be done behind closed curtains A side line question: What do people find a normal price per hour for a tractor? Over here it used to be €10 (£9) per hour. If you could swap your tractor for a new one and stick to the 10 Euro rule you'd generally did a good job. However, with price increases in recent years, it has gone more towards €15-20/hr! Making it uneconomical to change every 3 tot 5 years. To add a little to the Fendt debate, two farming friends of mine recently purchased new tractors. The first compared a JD 6170R to a Fendt 720 spec for spec. The Deere was €17k cheaper. He then looked at resale values of a 7530 compared to a Fendt 820. This was €20k, therefore deciding to tie up his capital in the Fendt. Friend number two specced up a new Fendt 724 S4 and NH T7.270 BP. The price difference being €12K! I was flabbergasted. Bought the Fendt, somewhat needless to say. Often 50 pence per clock hour per horsepower. Your right,it's all about cost of ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 At my work at minute there's talk of a new 180-200hp tractor to replace a 2year old 7280r which in honesty is a little too big here, the new tractor will have a loader which is badly needed here alongside a manitou 627. £20,000 to change to a 6190r with loader or £40,000 to change to a Fendt 718 with cargo loader!!!! Is the Fendt worth the extra premium? In my book it would be if it could cover nearly twice the hours of the JD , but can it?? I know the Fendts resale values are very strong but it shows just how expensive they are! From a driving view the Fendt in my book would have every advantage, because the 6190,6210r is in my book too short of a wheelbase thus being very bouncy on the road and here I speak from experience, but there is a 2 year old 6210r here and it's been completely trouble free so far and have an extremely reliable gearbox with long life reports, I guess it's just preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 At my work at minute there's talk of a new 180-200hp tractor to replace a 2year old 7280r which in honesty is a little too big here, the new tractor will have a loader which is badly needed here alongside a manitou 627. £20,000 to change to a 6190r with loader or £40,000 to change to a Fendt 718 with cargo loader!!!! Is the Fendt worth the extra premium? In my book it would be if it could cover nearly twice the hours of the JD , but can it?? I know the Fendts resale values are very strong but it shows just how expensive they are! From a driving view the Fendt in my book would have every advantage, because the 6190,6210r is in my book too short of a wheelbase thus being very bouncy on the road and here I speak from experience, but there is a 2 year old 6210r here and it's been completely trouble free so far and have an extremely reliable gearbox with long life reports, I guess it's just preference What about a T7.210 or T7.220? How do they compare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Blues not an option, they wouldn't hear of it. Whatever time the 03 TM190 goes it'll be for some shade of green too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) A grain store update... Since the last update the centre reservation wall is now up which will help segregate varieties, crops, premiums etc further and give us greater storage flexibility. We have put up panels in the doorways and work has now started on the exterior with the two new tipping bays going up, wet bins being craned back into position and an updated version of our Kentra dryer taking shape. Edited February 17, 2015 by Oakley Farms 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 17/02/2015 Its been a very exciting week so far, first up Monday was a wet day and saw me bringing back a new grain bucket from Bigwoods thanks to Butch twisting my arm! Then the afternoon made my day with the arrival of last piece of the jigsaw puzzle for CTF, our new Horsch Sprinter 12SW, thanks to Mark Bonning for delivering on our low loader, Mark will have our low loader again later in the week to travel to Suffolk, stay tuned to find out why. Here are some pics of us using Webbys JD to unload. And today saw Mark using Dans tractor as his is on the topper to collect a second hand planter two seasons old from Jamie Pullen, our last planter was a prototype of this planter and to be honest never was quite right and had seen better days, this one was picked up quite cheap, just as well with current markets! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy6930 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Who made the planter it looks really good do you know if they would make any more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 BOR made it and is a fine example of his high class craftsmanship, no more of these are available, I'm not sure what his future build plans are, something you will have to ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy6930 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Ok thanx that horsch looks some bit of kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 No problem thank you, there will be more pics and detail as we go through set up and start to use it in the next coming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Yards looking good Alex , The UK must spend a mint drying grain with your climate/seasons. You'll be hoping the world isn't a wash in feed wheat for much longer with it being your key crop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 Thanks Ol, work in progress but very much on target. Wr certainly do spend a fortune hence why we had the PV panels installed and the automated temp and moisture monitoring system that automates the drying is staying as the saving is huge. I am hoping things will pick up but we have spread our risk with other crops and working with a very large marketing firm we seem to have come out better than others but not brilliant, I'm sure next year will be different, better or worse, marketing is now by far the greatest skill you can acquire now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 That is one massive drill! A real piece of artwork though. Planter looking good also. Roll on spring! Busy spreading and spraying as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 Thank you Niels, yes we have had Orchards boys in spreading compost and chicken litter ahead of spring cropping, tickled a little N on some of the rape, being careful as i wouln't say our rape is foward but in need of a little encouragement, the Yara N sensor working well with what it needs by working out green area index. A couple weeks back we managed to spray some Kerb also in the rape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave the farmer Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 thats one smart shed alex.need to crack on with my one soon.ferti here yesterday and today.a bit muddy in places.that drill is excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Thanks Dave, im very pleased with how the shed is coming on, also pleased with the drill, just need the weather to use it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Yesterday saw us move up to Bondip to spread a little fert on Rape, sent webby up with the JCB on the lowloader, then came back for the curtainsider with fert, Phil on the spreader with the old 6210r back on the job. Wet today and had to bring JCB back ready to load stockfeed in the morning bound for Hinton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Interesting gizmo on the roof of the tractor Alex. Do you get fertility bands/strips spreading so wide and on the same ctf lines each year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Being honest Ol we struggle spreading certain products to 36m, small and hollow prills smash up when falling on the discs and won't travel out far. We avoid using these products where possible but the move over to liquid should help with accuracy. As for fertility bands this will be our first full year on CTF so yet to tell but we are planning to direct drill drill rape at 45 degrees to CTF lines in a dry year to try and help with residuals but in a wet year we will stick to the lines to aid travelling. If we need to purchase a strake to aid instead then so be it, 12m version though! Edited February 20, 2015 by Oakley Farms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Stock feed loaded and ready for delivery this morning, shame we have to resort to this to get rid of some spuds, 400 t of slightly scabby stuff we where hoping to go for value pack but no trade so this is the next best thing, expensive way to pay off a spreading bill though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 are there many people using the 12m stuff in the uk then alex ?? , its certainly not a width I have seen before, even around east Anglia where in most farms the field size would support it, most seem to be 4 or 6 m odd down here its usually 4m as the fields wont allow access with much bigger ,mainly the lanes to them that the gateways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakley Farms Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 You'd be surprised Sean, i know of 5 currently but im sure there are more, James Peck of PX, Hawthornes of Flawborough, Kieth Challen of Belvoir is in conversion to 12m, Andrew Tetlow of AWT Farm Services has a 12m Horsch drill but not practising full CTF as far as i know and Courteenhall Farms 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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