smish Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Question for all you plant guys, can anyone tell me the difference between the hymac 580C and the 580D also, do any of these has the modern type control levers, or do both use hand controls and foot pedals? thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Question for all you plant guys, can anyone tell me the difference between the hymac 580C and the 580D also, do any of these has the modern type control levers, or do both use hand controls and foot pedals? thanks, No, But I know a man who can... Martin Henley who makes the 1/24th JCBs and used to make HYMAC models all in plastic/resin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich.new holland Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 ill ask my uncle tomorow as hes had loads of hymacs he knows prity much everything about plant and agri machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 My first track machine was a Hymac 580 (think it was a C), and the controls were nothing like my second (third, fourth, fifth and sixth) track machines - most of which were Hitachi. The biggest problem I have is that I learned to dig on a Massey 50 and 50B. The boom lift-drop and boom in-out are opposite hands on a Massey than they are on a Hitachi. Just when I get into the zone (go onto auto-pilot) on a track machine I revert to Massey by instinct - which is strange considering I haven't driven a Massey since 1988. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Been driving a C for the last two weeks! Info later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 You looking at those ones in the Journal Joe ex Bord na Mona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Did u get the info you wanted? I'm only familiar with the C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smish Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 Did u get the info you wanted? I'm only familiar with the C. no mate, still a bit in the dark about it all. was thinking about picking one up for tidying up around the place and doing the ground work around my house when the builders are finished. what ya think of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Just was talking to neighbour for you he has 580c and worked on several others Ok here goes keep up Don't buy a D with a ford engine they are dirty panties . . .buy perkins C Has those weird controls that use feet for dipper etc . . and is right hand drive yuk!! D has Left hand cab "Normal" controls on arm rests later models had tracking on your feet early models had cable controls later models servo controls Far more power and speed with a D Think Thats all he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smish Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 thanks ricky, so would that make the 580D the same as a modern track machine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 later ones yes older ones feet do nout track still controlled by two seperate levers beside seat earlier ones cables from sticks to valves later ones servos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Ricky is on the right lines, the C I have been using is a 6 pot Ford powered machine. Starts first time everytime, no pre-heat but has extra fuel button. Controls are lever to linkage, not cable. Direction levers, one on either side of the seat for corresponding track. Boo controls are Left Lever: Forward - boom down Backward - boom up. Left - bucket tip Right - bucket load Right Lever: Forward - slew anti clockwise Backward - slew clockwise Left - Dipper out Right - Dipper in Left Pedal - Dipper out Right Pedal - Dipper in Levers are from the floor in front of you, not armrest. Track tension via grease nipple - seals for cylinders are hard to get hold of. All in all a very easy to use straight forward machine but the trouble is, because everything is linkage controlled the slack from lever to function is unreal. Your arms are doing doughnuts around the cab all day. Cheap for humping and lumping but not much good for grading or precise ditching etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Alright alright no one here wants to know about dohnuts at this time of nite cause they are hard to get hold of this late u made me flippin hungry now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeredriver Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 yup one i used to use was set up just like tris's machine i used to love running it after i put a stereo in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstarâ„¢ Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Alright alright no one here wants to know about dohnuts at this time of nite cause they are hard to get hold of this late u made me flippin hungry now!! Ricky is now offline... Where has he gone on his illusive Doughnut search? Find out tomorrow, live, from the man himself :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Ha ha Actually i've been listing loads on ebay old trains, car parts etc. . . still no doughnuts and i'm hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Luke mate, your class!! Nick. . . radio? What's one of them?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Just was talking to neighbour for you he has 580c and worked on several others Ok here goes keep up Don't buy a D with a ford engine they are dirty panties . . .buy perkins C Has those weird controls that use feet for dipper etc . . and is right hand drive yuk!! D has Left hand cab "Normal" controls on arm rests later models had tracking on your feet early models had cable controls later models servo controls Far more power and speed with a D Think Thats all he said I wouldn't say a Ford engine would be that bad, very common engine the 6D (as parts men seem to call them). I'd probably rather one to Perkins, but then I might be a tiny bit biased : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I'd reckon with these the engine wouldn't matter that much - should be shared with several combines so shouldn't be much trouble to get a replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Same as the NH 15 series of days gone by James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Same as the NH 15 series of days gone by James That's what I'm thinking Tris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 That's what I'm thinking Tris And Counties and Roadless and Muirhill and Track Marshall - might have been in some Claas machines too and Lely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 There is a siezed one in the workshop and a running one in the Hymac. . . Mmmm. . . . Kerrching!! Best get the socket set and a lead light ready for tonight. C'mon James and Colm, there is work to be done before sunrise!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Be right with you Tris - (walks quietly towards the door :D) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 There is a siezed one in the workshop and a running one in the Hymac. . . Mmmm. . . . Kerrching!! Best get the socket set and a lead light ready for tonight. C'mon James and Colm, there is work to be done before sunrise!! Swapped one in a combine before, I'm sure I can manage a Hymac :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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