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nice tractor its actually in real nice shape from my view point, has all the panels, orginal front tires?? thats a nice looking cab too, is that what they fitted in england to get round the regualtions??

ha ha!......its amazing whats out there when you look for it still waiting for a MF selene equal wheel tractor to come up on this site, one day one will

yup spend a few hours on a F140, which hit semi retirement a year ago, when the farmer sold up, since then it has moved to a new place (shed on a 3/4 acre property) and the farmer hires himself and tractor in the summer to a balage contractor, and is currently pulling carrot trailers harvesting carrots he asked me what to replace it with if i was thinking, i told him to keep it, its only done 5000hours, got another 10k in it yet it loves the 5m krone mower conditioner, in the summer months.... wish i had that tractor, its one of the last of the winner series

jdc, generally they are made be a big manufacture, but the name escapes me its knverland or something

i swear my ole man has one too with a honda?! motor on it i will have to inquire they built the GEM years after people had built better ones....... can't beat ole faith ful

i like there liberal use of ISEKI tractors http://www.puddingsworld.com/Implements/Gallagher/Forage_Harvester/Gallagher_Forage_Harvester.html

http://www.puddingsworld.com/Implements/Howard/Howard_Gem/Howard_Gem.html

this is easier the brochure on my site http://www.puddingsworld.com/Implements/Giltrap/Giltrap_Feedout_Wagon/Giltrap_Silage_Wagons.html

here ya go will get the rest of the pics too........res is too big for the forum

there a good plough rata make them on demand, still people out there buying them

you are my new hero, sorry marky;o)

nick, you need one of those, ha ha!........if you want to have one up on the guys here at the forum it will be a schindler conversion, there is a few here there are also a few 175's with what looks like GM axles and a few late 188's with genuine 4wd MF axles heres a 175 http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-farming-industry/Farming/Tractors/auction-141513847.htm?p=16

turn the front tires on ya 4wd tractors round, reduces tire wear on road work apparently

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Business-farming-industry/Farming/Tractors/auction-143299821.htm this is my kind of machine

the 8100 was one of the best built, they built those things for years , i think the UN have a few with 50kph gearboxes for pulling trailers of emergency aid into war torn countries they built a peat special version of the 8100 or 8150?.......built for peat work, twin pto shafts, heavy pto drives, axles, they had a fluid flywheel option on those things, kind before the wetclutch idea really took off, like the fendt farmer farvourit tractors had, you could leave it in gear and jump off the tractor and it would stop in gear....... valtra valmet tractors were built to have more weight forward on the front axle, built to pull, so it did make me a little heavy on when you are pulling something with little drawbar wieght pushing down on the rear axle friend has a 6650 and 8350 with reverse drive also, i think it came with it as they were demo tractors, last year he ran one with a front mounted mower on the rear, he reckoned it worked ok, but the little rear facing steering wheel required a lot of turns lock to lock, made headland turns very busy if you get real keen, sell all your toy tractors, stop buying new ones, save ya $ and hunt down a real valmet 705, preferably with reverse drive and forestry cab and grab, you would be a legend

good machines some say the T160 is a bit gutless, and the 8350 low revers, but...........i have customers and friends that love them few round clocking up the hours now.......... friend has a fleet of them, only reason he got a deere was valtra didn't have the hp

hey britains womble click on historical archieve on this page http://www.samedeutz-fahr.com/museum.php and search for SAMECAR, or toro, or elfante........you should be able to find pictures and sales literature of these machines its actually a amazing site, i spent hours there, lots of development photos, etc, stuff you never knew they made

i emailed my friend in belguim with a samecar to say i got one he emailed me back to say he has a 360 airplanetractor like the one in the pic............... bugger it, hes always one step ahead of me

mr cassani (founder of SAME) was in the mountains on vacation one day, wanted something for the peasant farmers to work there ground and carry produce to market on so he scratched the design out on the ground, and got his engineers to make it he was ahead of his time alright, he was responsible for some of the first diesel tractors, and 4wd will find some pics of other ones for you later on

naaa........unimog was thought of before this......heres a pic of a 1955 with big feet unimog was more of a truck, that could be used as a tractor mr womble my tractor has 7.50-20's on the front, std ones were 6.00-16, in both 2wd and 4wd spec ( the brochure shows a 2wd version) on the rear they suppose to have 10-24's this has 12.4-24's, they look like ferguson rims with same centres welded in ( i will try find some that are narrower, and fit in behind the front wheels, i would like to try vintage plowing with it) this machine must have had a different life, things like the wheels are not standard, i think it spent its life as a spreader or sprayer.......was well used when i got it i have the smaller front rims also, i will get some minitauro rear rims to match them later, bigger wheels are cool 3pt hitch was std (its a tractor undernieth), optional equipment was a 3 way tipper, 'wet kit'(hyd pump driven off fan belt), front PTO, and 2wd/4wd options, you also had hard top and soft top designs, and some were right hand drive sizes, there was only one size of this exact shape, there were earlier ones, some smaller, some based on the italia (2 cylinder 4wd), dating back to the 1960...... they also built a v8 large one which was a truck, called elephante.........150hp.......set up as concrete mixers etc they also made a SAMECAR TORO which was a truck, equal sized tires, 4wd, duals on the rear, about the same size as my one picture, it was SAME"S 'unimog' the v4 motor was common to SAME at the time, ya right, you have to keep the air flowing, to keep the noise down i will make the exhaust run under the rear wheel, so i can build a deck for it, its not to loud as it is, last ones were built in 71ish, they looked nice, not to sure how many of them survived mr cassani got upset about the lack of success and he ordered the factory to scrap stocks and not talk about it........ha ha!.........now, 25 years on they are actually slowly adding orginal photos of these machines and brochures to there online museum, i don't even think the SAME factory has one in there museum, i know they had 3 set up as internal fire engines, there is a pic on my site

ya cosgroves is sorta getting out of a lot of things and concentrating on its operation at redruth, engineering and silos etc hell the outfit i rent a room off brought dancosgroves ag machinery dealer in timaru, we now have kuhn and huscavana (kuhn will disapear), claas, MF/agco, lely,welgar,mcHale,JCB ha ha! i don't have money for anymore toys like that....... would like it thou....mine is a long way off being in that shape next tractor i get will be a std one, one i can use on a mower conditioner or something, maybe a fiat 1180dth all the guys who were SAME NZ marketing guys, teritory manages and peterscott? the general manager, has jumped into the new role under the austrailian based company that has deutz

ya, i have pics somewhere of it it was restored by robertson engineering in hinds mid canterbury wonder if he is going to sell if when the SAME franchise changes.........hopefully it goes to a good home thats inside the cab of cosgroves one thats the pic they used in the farm trader a couple years back

engine and trans

more, cab

something for ya, ya never know if i ever get it done i will send a pic to classic tractor magazine too its a 1965-68 we think, not to sure because the new zealand built safety frame that was on it destroyed the id tag its a V4 aircooled diesel, suppose to be 50hp, gearbox is a same atlanta, 4wd, front suspension, reckon it does about 40k on the road its a tractor/truck concept that was a little ahead of its time, not a success in mr cassanis eyes only a few in the world, i got a runner and a wreck, i know of 4 or 5 others in NZ trans and engine parts are available, not much else, anyway, any questions fire away