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hey brochure collectors guess what the coolest and rarer brochures are of.......... SHIPS! at the local port when i work there in the lunchroom they had a brochure of a tug boat the port was looking at buying.....i wasn't allowed to add it to my collection ;O( facinating to read, they take pics of the contruction process, and give options on engines, and specs on water displacement?! etc theres a challenge for marky........fergusons are sooooo last week

ha ha!.....the 611 was a ROPS model, and i really dunno what it was like, there is a 611 2wd with cab just traded at the JD yard here, if i get a chance i will take a pic in the cab for ya etc, it has a assitor ram for the 3pt hitch on the rear, looks like a definite after thought......it has a big steering rod up the right side of the engine also, its a wierd beast, didn't realise they were different to the other belaruses we have here.....from what i seen the MTZ was a nicer tractor one of my customers has a 720 4wd rops as a yard hack, will work on a pic of that for you too, actually we have one on our old machinery yard, its been there for 3 years, owned by a old chap, its a 704, that has been painted, with 720 decals, its a 4wd rops, never had a loader, would be a great restore it seems we can still get belarus parts quite redily here from the orginal importer, some 25 years after they were sold, i think the only problems they have is cosmetic parts are hard to find, and there was a small clutch assembly on the early 704's etc, that is no longer available and you get the bigger one now, and you have to change the flywheel, once you got that sorted they ok problem with the samecar is its italian (no offense, i have trouble finding info, because of language)......, SAME up to now are not very forthcoming with history, it was the model cassani wanted to forget, and the italian farmers don't exactly publiscise the fact they have one if you want to see something that is more like a unimog, look up samecar on the same history site, and look for a samecar TORO, this was there industrial spec, what a bit of kit, would love one of them i have a friend in belguim with a couple, i know of half dozen here in NZ, one in france, and i seen one on a italian tractor site once, interesting the friend in belguim has just brought a 4R20 SAME, and a SAME 360 airplane tug, its 4wd, equal sized wheels, used by the italian army i am told, i was also offered a SAME 360 highway special a couple weeks back, its in italy, waiting on pics, my friend in belguim wants it, despirately waiting for my friend to restore a drago, or find a V6 one, or a dinosauro

MJB1.......you ever get bored, seen too many ford 5000's yet, JD3350s ha ha! if you drive the same road each day, you don't read the signs, but when a new sign appears, you read it, and wonder what it is i like not so common classics, because they tell a story that has not been told, they are equally as rare as mainstream classics. people buy classic tractors and restore them because they drove one when they were kids, that is great, others buy and restore classic tractors, because no one else has one and lets face it, in 30 years time, someone is going to ask, what ever happened to the MTZ-80.......etc they are cheap to buy, different to look at, do the job, and you don't blend into the crowd......and lets face it, i imagine chris got this one for a good price, and its pulling that plough alright, its got a cab, 4wd and hyd remotes for the rollover plough...... believe me, i get some funny looks and some very curious on people talking to me, when we get the SAMECAR out and go for a drive, its a tractor, its vintage, its 4wd, 50hp, does over 40k on the road, ha ha!.....and it has a passenger seat i believe the vintage tractor schene is flooded with the sameolesameole, but that is my opinion, some of the best kept secrets in vintage machinery are still out there in russia, italy, germany, brasil,......we haven't found them yet..........this is because of the language barrier and the states of the nations they are in hats off to chris, he has a classic tractor i would like, that 2wd 25hp belarus of his, that would be a great tractor for road rallys........and it has a cab!........wonder if it fits on a car trailer hey belarusfan, ya, its the twist knob on top of the main lever on the right side of the steering wheel, been a while since i drove, one, i had a real crash course in belarus operation about 5 years ago, i got to a farmers yard harvesting on night shift with my new idea uni, and 8x4 mitsi truck and 3 axle trailer, had to do a million point turn to turn the truck, or shift 4 belaruses and drive round the shed, took me 15 minutes to figure how to start the first one (didn't know it had a isolator switch behind the seat), once i got it figured, and found reverse, i was away ha ha!......the farmer had a 611, 720 920 and 920 with a big turbo on it

hey luke http://www.masseyferguson.com/agco/mf/inte/home.htm the real ones are hiding in there....under the 5400 section or 6400 ;O) nice looking model ya got there, the real ones sure are shiney, we haven't got any of those new ones yet here, but we have a couple old ones!

ya belarus was a state/country of USSR.........don't they make a tracked machine up there?? i am told the quadtrac and challenger sales into that country have a tarrif added when sold so there must be domestic industry they are trying to protect belarus was the name given to tractors for export from 6 factorys by a state owned enterprise (?!) exporting russian quality domestic product there were also factories in the ukraine wasn't they (another state/country or the USSR) i forget all the names, chris got a couple mind you he is a guru wasn't there one called lipsek? and kirovets kirovets later went out on its own, trying to recreate a brand of machinery.........guess they figured the belarus marketing was two restricting, i really think cause a lot of kirovets was made in ukraine, and ukraine was split off russia former USSR early, and the ukraine tractor manufacturer saw it was a opportunity to grow hey chris is that MTZ you got, got the gearlever with the knob on top you twist for ranges?

maybe we will see the lockwood contracting use the first million he makes from his book to re invest in some quality plant for the ag division, well the first 10K that is.....ha ha!.......will buy a whole lot of stuff for that much

the 55-90 was a rare machine, especially in 2wd looks like it just needed a loving home

thats right allis did make one when i was a kid the local town had one, because we lived in a bay and we had big contributary rivers, there was wood on the beaches every day, the big stuff after heavy rain in the head waters was picked up by loaders , but the small stuff and the grooming was done by a red beach cleaner pulled by a ISEKI SX85 4wd and cab,

put a fiat axle from my wore out 880, in my ford 5000 (errr, you know, the cheap britains, brown and white)...........what was i smoking also put floaters on the back had a mf2680 i painted the wheels silver and the cab took the shoot of me tow behind britains silage harvester turned it 90 degrees, for side loading if you take the corn front off you have instand grass front i have a question for marky, i had a MF595 with a *** roll over frame infront of the steering wheel, was this a actual tractor? that was a well used toy,

yup my ole man has one somewhere don't it have a green bale and a 'wrapped one?'

i know its been asked for before, but a nice 1:32 CIH magnum 7250 would be well recieved or a 84 hydro 4wd/cab )....got a softspot for them or a kubota M9540..........they are a nice tractor implements JD1590 no-till drill or do they already do it?

yup

yup.........my one 50hp tractor on my 1/4acre gives me 200hp per acre love maths thats a lot of horse.......going to need more grass

best JD ever made, chamberlain 4290.........120hp this one actually has 3pt hitch fitted (optional)

4560 2wd

ride on with a real motor

4050HC

artic lawn tractor, scratch built

4020 with a NZ made SG2 on it

cheers marky, you are a legend, now go bale some rubbish friend already has a MF1020 HST on his 30 acres, needs a tractor that can pull, ha ha!..........more toys more toys i have a tractor on my 1/4 acre section by my reckoning he should have 120 tractors on his 30 acres

love the leather seat they also built crawlers but hey, they were just you a typical italian domestic market tractor manufacturer, built crawlers, 4wd tractors, and all there own components in house

ya....... lambo built tractors first until he got a taste for fast cars the one in massey boys pic is a post SAME merger tractor, its basically a SAME chassis and water cooled motor the ones built before SAME were ok machines i am told the 904 is a lambo, although there were same based ones sold at the same time the 1056 was one of the first models built on the SAME skid, there is one or two here in NZ the 754 like here in the brochure supplied by chris lockwood.........was a popular tractor

those ole wire tires ya used to get for tying up bags in the kitchen were great for making a drawbar on the back of a mashio britains powerharrow, for pulling my corgi (i think) roller, it was the same width, cracker unit..... also take the cadge out of the powerharrow and turn it round so its not hooked to the gear drive from the power drive (i didn't have a powerdrive tractor)

quick question, were was the MF 451 built my friend in america is looking at buying one, and wants too know

marky i didn't read the other 9 pages of this post, just the first one so i don't know what was said..........but buy a hyd porta pack, comes with tank, honda motor, filter remotes etc, build it onto a tandem axle bogie with brakes, and pull it behind fanny ........ well i red the other 9 pages ha ha!.........good effort marky we have a 5445 here in stock if you want one you need a front forklift for the front of the tractor now.......