not john karl a neighbour of mine there is loads of rodgers up here and all into tillage john just got a new 936 instead of the 8520 dont think he will be jd much longer the dealer up here is gone really bad with his service and charging serious money for callouts a few lads around here have changed from jd because of it there is a serious amount of new hollands around here now good to see as the dealer for them is amate of mine they doing really well . bergin up here just cancelled his new 8530 from the same dealer thats the second one this year he cant get anyone to take it .it was at the fingal rally