BRITAINSMAD Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Ive had this set up on my shelf now for a few weeks but someone just told me that this tractor wouldnt be able for this seeder. Are they correct? I would have thought 310HP would have been more than enough even though it is a bit of a beast on behind? Or should I employ the services of this guy!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerrabbit Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Anything is possible in the 'virtual' world, especially carpet farming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 In real life probably on light land but then again it looks good so what the hey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 just looked up my vaderstad brochure that says rapid 800c 260-400hp so magnum will be fine,i suspect in real life the 260hp would be for very light soils,400 for very tough going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I must have an older brochure to yours jan 2009 mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 does the brochure qoute HP at drawbar? manufacturers always tend to give a conservative figure to cover themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 does the brochure qoute HP at drawbar? manufacturers always tend to give a conservative figure to cover themselves. draft requirement (in normal conditions) archbarch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 draft requirement (in normal conditions) archbarch and whats the definition of normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 and whats the definition of normal? i dont know ask vaderstad,but you would think ,light soil,not hilly,in other words perfect conditions,which rarely happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmitemania Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I would say that normal conditions would be somewhere inbetween these two! just looked up my vaderstad brochure that says rapid 800c 260-400hp so magnum will be fine,i suspect in real life the 260hp would be for very light soils,400 for very tough going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordson major Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 From my experience with seedhawk and seedmaster which seem to be a very similar idea in Canada the Case IH front wheel assist would pull it in real soft ground like dry peat. I would say that in hard ground you would need the JD fully ballasted as a friend of ours has a seedmaster and pulls it with an equal wheeled duelled up tyres case IH 4wd. If he drops the shanks right in it stands and spins as even that is not heavey enough. My ex boss has a seedhawk and pulls it with a fully ballasted and duelled up tyres 9400 JD it is a little under powerd on hills in ground like concrete ( no sleeping deere there ) But it moves it . It probably weighs over 16 tons at a guess. The problem with these seeders is that they are designed like a 4 wheel drag trailer and dont put much weight on the tractor drawbar to boost traction so the tractor has to be heavy to compensate for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 i dont know ask vaderstad,but you would think ,light soil,not hilly,in other words perfect conditions,which rarely happens when i see a Vaderstadt rep at a show i will enjoy asking this, its probably a figure they pulled from the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Not a hope in hell I wouldn't have thought with the Case, 6m yes, 8m no way on all but the firmest of seedbeds with none of the cultivation equipement on the front in the ground. Vaderstad rate our 300S for 90-150hp, there's no way that 90hp would handle that drill with anything in the hopper. Its all our two 120/5hp tractors want to handle (JD 6420s & 6810) with 500kg on board, the 6910 copes better with it but with a full hopper (1000kg) its even possible to make my 6920s pull hard but for the most part its the master of it and will pull it at the speeds its designed for. I don't know where Vaderstad get their minimum figures from but with any form of cultivation equipment working in the ground the drills do take some pulling \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Posted February 21, 2010 Share Posted February 21, 2010 no bother shes case just screw her out a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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