ihatepoundland Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I'm keen to make one of these and had hoped to see one this weekend but alas none was present (and i'd even taken a tape measure ) If anyone can supply dimensions for the cab and its over hang and/or photos detail photographs of the machine or even have a decent brochure that shows some of this for sale (not had luck on ebay, seem to buy the crapo ones) that would be great. Hopefully found a manual now (fingers crossed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I have a brochure somewhere, if i can find it i can photocopy it for you if thats any help to you. Is it the newer one or older one you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 26, 2006 Author Share Posted June 26, 2006 I would take either I'm struggling to get info, I've got gibbards book and I know the wheelbase and width (if its the same as the base unit), I've searched Farmphoto, google and past ebay sales, but because I've never seen a real one I need to get an idea of the desgin, how the rear is layed out and what is in the middle so at the moment anything would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 I know i have a full set of 1980's county leaflets as my late father sold them and i kept the leaflets afterwards, think i may have one on the early fc as well, will look as soon as i get a minute for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Few more questions: Tyres, for the 1164 (don't know if the 1184 FC had similar sizes) I've found: "13.6/12 - 38.8" and on another site, "18,4-30", I don't see how these work? Help Grille, is it the same size (or there abouts) as the 6600? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Few more questions: Tyres, for the 1164 (don't know if the 1184 FC had similar sizes) I've found: "13.6/12 - 38.8" and on another site, "18,4-30", I don't see how these work? Help Grille, is it the same size (or there abouts) as the 6600? Thanks FC would look better with the narrower tyres. As for the front grille it is the very same - the only difference is the badge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thanks for the grill info, any chance of deciphering the tyre sizes....I don't understand the format of them, I need to work out what tyres I have or can get that best suit scale and style wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 13.6/12-38.8 == 13.6 inches wide on 38 inch rims I presume the 8 is for 8 ply 18.4 - 30 == 18.4 inches wide on 30 inch rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Aha, so 12 is probably sidewall Height? It was the .8 that confused me on the rims, thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 12 is the rim width. The 18.4x30 is actually 18.4,15x30. We make these with wheel options for our SCALEdown range (1/32) Plain, solid wheels or 4 "window/slot" type all ?6.50/pair + ?1.50 postage (that's wheels & tyres) (?2.00 :2 pairs) & you'll need the 8 stud wheel nut type. Our Lime spreader contractor used to run 1184 FC's on 23.1,18x26's but I can't do them I'm afraid. He went to Big "A" as spares were such a job to get for the Counties despite them only being in the next county. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thanks Nigel, I will deffinatly be purchasing the right tires this time (unlike the Muir Hill 101 model which never got going), have to get the other nessacary info first though, I think I know the 26 inch rims tyres you mean if they are similar to the ones underneath the muck spreader in Gibbard's Ford Conversions, are the ones on the seahorse similar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 No the seahorse are ultra-deep lug, though not fully authentic to the real "Cane & Rice" pattern of the real Good Years which have a wavy tread bar. They are on a 30 inch rim which I have made a plain wheel for as opposed to the flotation cavity wheel centre on the seahorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Thanks, you'll have to excuse my laymans eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 27, 2006 Author Share Posted June 27, 2006 Nigel, another question if you don't mind, would the front axle from the Super six be "passable" (in that I realise I am not going to produce a 100% accurate replica) for a 1174/1184 either standard or with modification, I guess it is narrower??? OR would it just be a lot easier to build a FC654 or one of that type? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 yes, they were the same from the super 4 to the 1184, only the 150 hp plus were bigger:from the 12/1454-1884 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 If you still need them i've now got the spec sheet to the 1174FC, if you want a clearer image let me know. Also have them to the 4600-FOUR, 6600-FOUR, 6700-FOUR, 7600-FOUR, 7700-FOUR, 774, 974 and 1184TW if anyone wants them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Take it this is the model in question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 If you still need them i've now got the spec sheet to the 1174FC, if you want a clearer image let me know. Also have them to the 4600-FOUR, 6600-FOUR, 6700-FOUR, 7600-FOUR, 7700-FOUR, 774, 974 and 1184TW if anyone wants them Yes please! the hubble telescope is broken Thats the beast, I've managed to find a manual for it on CD now with technical drawings but its got to come from the U.S, spec sheet would be great for now. I've got to decide what to build now though, the early FC 654/754 with the centre cab is much easier to build on the scaldeDOWN super six, but the cab itself is much much easier on the 1174/84.....I prefer the later so maybe it would be that accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Thanks Nigel, I will deffinatly be purchasing the right tires this time (unlike the Muir Hill 101 model which never got going), have to get the other nessacary info first though, I think I know the 26 inch rims tyres you mean if they are similar to the ones underneath the muck spreader in Gibbard's Ford Conversions, are the ones on the seahorse similar? I found the image that confused me, not on the machine I thought, look like seahorse centres to me, but tyres slightly different??? Doesn't matter as its not a 1174/1184, just interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I found the image that confused me, not on the machine I thought, look like seahorse centres to me, but tyres slightly different??? Doesn't matter as its not a 1174/1184, just interesting I think they are Seahorse wheels and tyres alright - maybe they were using up old stock ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I agree on the wheels, is it a forward control?? Maybe it was a one off build.... \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 It is, a FC754 if i remember (can't be bothered to get the book out now ) maybe a prototype. Tyre sidewalls are missing the diamond pattern, but look nearly the same. Did the flotation centres cause extra hassle when changing wheels? Mind you a floating FC would be a very usefull machine with that platform on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Can I just confirm something with those in the know...Britains Ford 5610/7710/TW10 engine casting a match for the engine in the county? Should be if the Britains casting is a TW10 but need to check....and why is the TW35 casting so different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 TW10 and TW 35 have different castings because they are very different using different chasses and have a longer wheelbase then the tw10 by the fact engine is larger and having the fuel tank up front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihatepoundland Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Same engine though, 6578cc (looked that up ) yet the casting on the TW35 is no where near Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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