Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 The MF 38 Tiller... can't really see the point of thse really... they don't look like they "do much" ... except scratch the surface... NEVER seen one in real life - not popular around here... I just wondered if one of you farmer types would explain the process please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Not 100% sure myself mate but looks like he could be doing a bit of inter-row-hoeing with it in the pic......Is that possible...... \ ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 I havn't a clue Mart... sounds feesable though mate... nice 168 though hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I havn't a clue Mart... sounds feesable though mate... nice 168 though hey I was trying to think what the tractor was...... What's the Horsepower difference between a 168 and a 1080 mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 168 was 66hp Mart.. 1080 was 92 :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 168 was 66hp Mart.. 1080 was 92 :o Cheers mate......1080 was a big tractor for its day...... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Second biggest Massey at the time Mart... only one bigger was the 1100... ah... apart from the 1200 of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Second biggest Massey at the time Mart... only one bigger was the 1100... ah... apart from the 1200 of course Just wondered as I thought the 168 in the pic looked similar......The poor 1080 at work is in need of a good doing up as it's just sitting falling apart, the interior is anyway...... :'( :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 back to the main point i think it is to break up the top of the soil to get rid of the compaction and also the movement of the soil disturbes the weeds to slow there growth but im not 100% shure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Just wondered as I thought the 168 in the pic looked similar......The poor 1080 at work is in need of a good doing up as it's just sitting falling apart, the interior is anyway...... :'( :'( Oh I want that 1080 Mart... that would make a lovely resto project mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 back to the main point i think it is to break up the top of the soil to get rid of the compaction and also the movement of the soil disturbes the weeds to slow there growth but im not 100% shure Interesting... thanks Matty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-classic-collector Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 spring tined cultivator, can be placed straight into stubble after a subsoil, or after discing to break the ground up more. but it simply breaks the ground up like matty a said! a proccess not using a plough.......... the tines break up weeds (like matty said ) but can make rows ready for the bed prep........ they can help with drainage but not a great deal as they dont reach the pan............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Oh I want that 1080 Mart... that would make a lovely resto project mate I know......She's in not in bad condition looking at it from a distance but when you get closer and open the doors (I didn't do that obviously, not as far as the boss is aware anyway...... ) the cladding inside is falling away and she's home to who knows how many spiders......I'm sure she'll still start though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thanks TCC.... Mart.... that cladding is still available mate... so no worries there... and I don;t mind spiders... Mrs F keeps them in her hair... Anyway... Back on topic... Would it do much good on a stubble field TCC... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Thanks TCC.... Mart.... that cladding is still available mate... so no worries there... and I don;t mind spiders... Mrs F keeps them in her hair... Anyway... Back on topic... Would it do much good on a stubble field TCC... I'll take that as an order for me to shut up then...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty a Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 spring tined cultivator, can be placed straight into stubble after a subsoil, or after discing to break the ground up more. but it simply breaks the ground up like matty a said! a proccess not using a plough.......... the tines break up weeds (like matty said ) but can make rows ready for the bed prep........ they can help with drainage but not a great deal as they dont reach the pan............. so that means im not as thick as i look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-classic-collector Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 well from what ive learnt at college, from what i remember (hangovers) you can use them on stubble feilds, might take another run over, but it will start the proccess. the springs on the tines simply stop obstructions, but also create a 'flciking affect' on the soil if you can see what i mean.......... you do know something matty ha ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 I'll take that as an order for me to shut up then...... No No Mart... it's me that keeps getting myself into trouble mate... I'm making a cincious effort not to OT so much (well at all really)... doesn't seem to be working mind so that means im not as thick as i look Bright as a Button Matty well from what ive learnt at college, from what i remember (hangovers) you can use them on stubble feilds, might take another run over, but it will start the proccess. the springs on the tines simply stop obstructions, but also create a 'flciking affect' on the soil if you can see what i mean.......... you do know something matty ha ha! I thought they just flicked back when they hit an obstruction... didn;t know that that was part of the design (to flick the clods) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 No No Mart... it's me that keeps getting myself into trouble mate... I'm making a cincious effort not to OT so much (well at all really)... doesn't seem to be working mind I'll let you off then...... Do you think if I gave you a real Grey Fergie to be your second tractor you'd stop going OT......Here we go OT again anyway......This time my fault...... \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-classic-collector Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 i might have to go OT if theres a grey girl up for grabs :D :D go on marky, crash the server using OT tactics :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Give me little Regan and I'll NEVER post again Mart... I promise * * See.... now look what you have done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHolland2 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Give me little Regan and I'll NEVER post again Mart... I promise * * See.... now look what you have done :D......I don't want to shut you up mate......Just a little incentive to not go OT...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow legs Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 those tillers were good going into stubble, i had a 9 tine one for my tef20 (now both sold on) and it made a grand job in stubble, i used to drag round broken bales then fire them, (bad bailing contractor ) 2 or 3 passes was as good as ploughing and it didnt leave a deep furrow ridge my dad keeps toying with the idea of making a 4m one out of scrappers so if you have powerharrowed land down for drilling and it rains you can "open" it up to dry with it as they move the soil well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Before power harrows they were a good bit of kit to create a seedbed after ploughing (mostly spring cropping then) and would be followed with a spring tine cultivator or harrow to leave land ready for the drill. They weren't really heavy enough for primary cultivation and the legs would break back - everybody ploughed then anyway. That pic shows it on 'boys land' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 ooooh used to be my summer job when i was 13 , get one of those on the 135 & go ripping up the harvested potato ground , also used it a lot for the first pass on ploughed ground , then followed by a 3mtr dutch harrow on a 590, then a howard rotavator ready for the manned potato planter all in the days before powerharrows & bed tillers ,unmanned planters & box tippers :) more often than not they were the first implement to break up wintered ploughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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