Simon Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 That's the way to clear a field! Didn't watch all of it so didn't notice, were the balers driven by a donkey engine or off the combine? Presume off a donkey engine? Quote
nashmach Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 :o That looks to be some operation and nice gear Quote
BGU Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 Forget the combines - how about collecting the bales at that speed!! You can't always hit them correctly to turn them 90 degrees surely? Quote
Tractorman810 Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 ok clever idea, but how does he know if theres a prob with the baller for one, like a bust twine or blockage, they dont look donky engine drive from the side shots i can see,but there doesnt look to be any pick up for the baller as i cant see straw on the floor between them either, would it be possible to power a baler of say the choppers parts at the back and into the baller via a conveyor Quote
BGU Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 MGU thinks the bale collector is awesome!! :o He just tried it with his Siku Fendt Combine and big Krone baler - It tows it but the rear wheels of the combine are off the ground! :D Quote
texas Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 I have :D http://www.farmtoysforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=20666.0 To hard to keep up with reading all the post. texas Quote
rich.new holland Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 what happens if the baler catches fire \ that would be hell of a loss \ Quote
MODELFARMER Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 what happens if the baler catches fire \ that would be hell of a loss \ wash your mouth out with soap!! Forget the combines - how about collecting the bales at that speed!! You can't always hit them correctly to turn them 90 degrees surely? could cope the tractor if they were to spin in front of it!!! Quote
JC Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I have :D http://www.farmtoysforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=20666.0 I was gonna say this is old news....! I bet the chaser bin driver has to be on his toes, you don't want a hesston bale dropping in your path as you just floor it to catch the next combine do you??! Quote
CJ Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 this was in profi a while ago i think the balers are driven from the combines hydraulics and there is a shock absorbing drawbar running upto the combine's front axle. Quote
rich.new holland Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 wash your mouth out with soap!! could cope the tractor if they were to spin in front of it!!! what Quote
griffithsbros Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 what i think he means could the tractor cope if the bale were to spin infront of the tractor Quote
SMurF Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 ok clever idea, but how does he know if theres a prob with the baller for one, like a bust twine or blockage, they dont look donky engine drive from the side shots i can see,but there doesnt look to be any pick up for the baller as i cant see straw on the floor between them either, would it be possible to power a baler of say the choppers parts at the back and into the baller via a conveyor Same way as you do on a standard trailed baler The computer tells you Not like the good old days when you had to watch everything from the cab As for powering the baler Can't quite work it out as if it was powered by the combine it would eat up too much power as they need about 150 horses on a tractor and as for donkey engine, can't see one dut that may be a fuel tank on the back of the baler unless it is an additive tank \ Quote
Pingu Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Having read this somewere before if a remember rightly the balers are driven off a large hydraulic motor on the combine, and if i can remember right the combine is fitted with a larger engine to cope with this. I could proberly be wrong but think thats how its done ??? Quote
Simon Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 I just can't see how anything other than a proper mechanical drive would be up to it. Big balers take a lot of driving. It COULDN'T be driven of any existing combine drive, all the belt driven equipment or low volume hydraulic ancilliaries would not be anywere near man enough to drive it, probably even to turn it over empty! Those HD PTO's are there for a reason!! Quote
Tractorman810 Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Same way as you do on a standard trailed baler The computer tells you Not like the good old days when you had to watch everything from the cab As for powering the baler Can't quite work it out as if it was powered by the combine it would eat up too much power as they need about 150 horses on a tractor and as for donkey engine, can't see one dut that may be a fuel tank on the back of the baler unless it is an additive tank \ cheers scott, didnt know they fitted that stuff to balers now, always used to cranking the head round and listining for weird grinding noises when it went wrong in my day :D Quote
rich.new holland Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 i think he means could the tractor cope if the bale were to spin infront of the tractor no not that ,if you look its in bold Quote
allis8550 Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Same way as you do on a standard trailed baler The computer tells you Not like the good old days when you had to watch everything from the cab As for powering the baler Can't quite work it out as if it was powered by the combine it would eat up too much power as they need about 150 horses on a tractor and as for donkey engine, can't see one dut that may be a fuel tank on the back of the baler unless it is an additive tank \ There appears to be an air cleaner and possibly an exhaust on top of the baler, so presumably it has an engine fitted somewhere, but I can't work out quite where. Quote
Pingu Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Went looking just now and found the article in october 2007 profi magazine and the baler is driven by a bigger hydraulic motor off the combine which has been fitted with a bigger deutz engine case settled :D Quote
jdc Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 I don't think either the combines or the balers are overworked on the straw side...... Quote
Simon Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 I don't think either the combines or the balers are overworked on the straw side...... That's true, not exactly heavy cropping is it! Quote
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