Strange you lot say that as a contrator nearby had a fleet of 8 till he fell out with the dealer , & he was very impressed with them as he'd had SAME for the last 15 years, some of them sounded real beasts as the baffles had rotted out in the exhaust, the only thing the drivers didn't like was that the steering shared the same oil resovior as the back end & if you didn't keep the steering working while tipping a trailer then you'd have no steering . Apart from that, if there was another dealer close by he'd of bought more he now runs Deeres & MF & refuses to go into the SAME dealers yard.