Rick Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 How come the UK guys get the higher detailed unit and us Yanks get the old plan sandbox version....look at the 1505 MF for example.....what a shame we dont have the dealers in North America with access to the UK versions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Agree Pops... it's a bum deal you guys seem to get.... I can only hazard a guess at it being a "safety" thing.... as in not so many twiddly bits for you lot... \ Perhaps this is a question for Mr Waters sometime \ I've got both the 1505's and you've got a lot missing from your version :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 cant your us dealer order them then?? they must have a massey part number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 Let Marky get you a "limey version" pops... you will have it by 2009 that way :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBRITFARMER Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 It's hard enough to get 1:32 US stuff over here, let alone the Euro stuff. I know the 1505 US version is missing the mirrors, what else is it missing And was the real US version different to the UK one If you look at the tracked JD...the euro has lights on the weight and mirrors, the US version doesn't have either (which I was told that a tracked tractor shouldn't have mirrors as the vibrations would snap them off. The only reason they are on the euro one was because the roof they chose already had the holes). Which then begs the question why didn't they use the roof for the US one then Sorry maybe a little OT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 19, 2007 Share Posted November 19, 2007 I think I put a post up on here once before about it... can you find it ben * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I think I put a post up on here once before about it... can you find it ben * i remember the topic & have been in the 'search' marky but it's not thrown anything up as yet ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 i remember the topic & have been in the 'search' marky but it's not thrown anything up as yet ? I did the same Marcus... perhaps it's gone Shall I do it all again then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 just as well as had mate matter of fact if anyone has a euro version & a US version of the same model , please post them up to see the differences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 just as well as had mate matter of fact if anyone has a euro version & a US version of the same model , please post them up to see the differences DOH... I have Marcus... thats what I was going to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 better make myself a bit clearer , i didn't mean the 1505 , i meant any other tractor model that is released in both euroland & the states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 better make myself a bit clearer , i didn't mean the 1505 , i meant any other tractor model that is released in both euroland & the states oops... snot a numpty is it snot snot is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 oops... snot a numpty is it snot snot is it i wouldn't have thought so marky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 i wouldn't have thought so marky Phew.... I have more than enough for everyone to have one :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Phew.... I have more than enough for everyone to have one :D we will let you off this time! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCF Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I'll put my two penneth in... In the USA, collections tend to not be as formal as European collections from what I have seen. In the USA, younger collectors (10-14) tend to be rougher with their models, and may bring them outside to the sandbox to play with. In Europe from what I have seen, collectors of the similar age tend to keep their models inside and use them lightly on the carpet. People pull lawsuits in the USA for the dumbest reasons on a daily basis...my guess is that RC2 wants to release a model in the USA that they can be certain they will not get sued for, and can include the age 10-14 label on it. In Europe, it seems less of a worry as collectors are generally lighter on their models, so the extra detail can be added to the age group models without the fear of them being constantly heavily used and swallable parts breaking off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I reckon you have hit the nail... well and truly on the head there Timmy B.... I will be interseted to hear what Bill Waters has to say on this \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Walters Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Age grading/safety standards are different in the US vs. Europe. In Europe, you must either age grade the unit 3+ (classified as toy), or 14+ (classified as a replica). In the US, we have many different age gradings 18 months plus, 3+, 5+, 8+, etc.. All of these have certain tests in terms of choking hazards, small parts, drop tests, pull tests, etc.. The US standard for 3+ is different than the European standard for 3+. We can leave the mirrors on a European tractor and get it to pass 3+, but cannot get the same unit to pass US 3+ standards. Typically we like to offer our lower priced 1/32nd items as toys and sell them as 3+. This requires that we remove the mirrors and other small parts. We will also sell some units as true replicas with the mirrors, but we must classify these as "collectible" and age grade them 8+ or 14+. All of our Precision models and "Collector Editions" are now age graded 14+. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 cheers Bill, that actually explains a lot! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Thanks Bill.... thats explains it all... as I posted in your recent "best & worst topic" ... I love them both... hats off to you for a cracking model And thanks once again for the response.... it's an honour to have you drop in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 thats a lot more complicated than i thought it would be bill, dont envey you having to sort that lot out daily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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