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how many gallons do you reckon to go through that per hour stephen ?

used to work at one farm that had two dairies , both equiped with separators , the solids would then go to his daughters shed to be dried ,shredded, mixed with irish peat & bagged to sell as compost , within a year she was voted as southwest bussiness woman of the year

hi not a 100% on through put depends on how thick the slurry is really ,maybe there is some selling possibilities for the liquid/solids as everyone needs to do something for the enviroment maybe golf courses/playin fields  may be a target for the solids ?

Must be heavy if they need a crane ???

Bet you are glad to see the progress Stephen ;)

a crane was the safer bet as regards a telehandler but yes glad to see  the progress  :)

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now i have a good view of everything  :D

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ah so thats who the king of the castle is then stephen  :D :D :D :D,certainly coming on fast now, how much longer till you can use it then

:D..... i,ll be a while yet Sean still a bit of building ,concreting need to get a water supply to it and power needs to be connected plus i,ll only probaly test in the next month or 2 not be in full swing until October  ;)

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I take it the separator is a kind of centrifuge?

Do you just spread the soloid matter like dung?

How reliable are the 2 outlet valves off the tank, maybe it is just the operator in me but if you need to shut them for any reason you may not get them shut tight due solid matter collecting in the bottom of the gate?

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great progress!, whats the shute out the back for?, some kind of disposal thing?? ???

not quite sure how stephens works , but I'll give you a rough idea how the ones at work worked  :-\ :D

slurry is pumped from the store up to the separator ,

the separator we had consisted of a a surface approx 4ft long x 2ft wide,

the slurry was pumped onto the surface the surface had a constantly moving fine nylon mesh set up like a conveyor

at the far end of the conveyor was a set of rollers that were spring loaded

the wet slurry was spread on the conveyor would then be moved along to the rollers where they would squeeze the water out ,which would then be piped back to the store the solid residue would then be scraped off the mesh onto the chute into the trailer

all in all it's basically a giant mangle ;)

i wonder if head chief numty deserves an award for spelling  :D

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Bloody hell this is interesting... can we have a guided tour of the inner workings please Stephen.... looks like some piece of kit as well  :o

I have a wedgewire screen at work which does a similar job with my peeling machine slurry too... I'd love to see that working  :o

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Thanks Stephen... I love things like this... very interesting..

One fundemental question is simply this... What will you gain from having this equipment instaled ??? is it the income stream from the soild matter that drives the purchase... or another advantage ???

Not that I want to know how much... but I suspect you have made a considerable investment in your waste systems here  :o :o :o - it's nice to see someone else making substantial investment in wate management plant  :)

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Thanks Stephen... I love things like this... very interesting..

One fundamental question is simply this... What will you gain from having this equipment installed ??? is it the income stream from the solid matter that drives the purchase... or another advantage ???

Not that I want to know how much... but I suspect you have made a considerable investment in your waste systems here :o :o :o - it's nice to see someone else making substantial investment in waste management plant :)

up until the past few years all was fine in the winter you got a dry day with fairly good ground conditions we spread slurry straight from the tanks simple,effective just another job and so on....................

with a law about to be enforced spreading slurry from October until February will soon now be prohibited so we must store all our slurry over them months which i believe is silly, stupid well believe this at the minute anyway

  so in order to allow me to keep farming on the same level basically i needed more storage as did a lot of other farmers ,so having this opportunity to spend money i said right if we do it we try and do a good job.

  so we went this route with advantages with being able to cut down on fertiliser costs this separated liquid can be spread on fields and again grazed as little as 4 days later it basically dirty water but with 85% of the nutrients as ordinary slurry ,then the solids can be ploughed back into the ground or used as compost even if it were to go threw a drying process the cows could be bedded with it again .

maybe you may see Fm's compost or liquid tomato feed for sale yet  :)

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Very interesting stephen,

I have seen a similar thing with removing sand bedding from slurry to use it again.

The separator sounds very similar to mud shakers used on drilling rigs.

Does to liquid have to be spread using a deflector plate or does it have to be injected?

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Very interesting stephen,

I have seen a similar thing with removing sand bedding from slurry to use it again.

The separator sounds very similar to mud shakers used on drilling rigs.

Does to liquid have to be spread using a deflector plate or does it have to be injected?

we are allowed the spread plate at the minute but maybe move to a trailing shoe machine eventually see how we go with the liquid i may install a flush system to flush out the solid passage where the cows stand so i can keep them clean too then i dont need to scrape out putting more liquid back into the slurry hence then it will be more easily seperated

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Thanks for the explanation Stephen... so in short it's a new regulation that's coming in that forces you to invest in waste managemenbt then...

What's the purpose/aim of this new legislation then... ??? I don't understand why you would need to prohibit spreading t o certain months ???

I hope you don't mind if I ask a few more questions...

What is the filling method used to fill the pit.... ???

Assuming it's pumped... what kind of pump are used.. ie. Worm and Stater, Peristaltic, Impeller etc. ???

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eventually slurry will start from here

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pumped up the green pipe

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through the rollers

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the seperated liquid will go in here

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now its a long way down 6 metres

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more is pumped that needed so the overflow comes down the orange pipes and back into the tank

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the solids will slide down this shute into a silage trailer i guess for now

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Ah I see... it's clearer now... thanks Stephen for getting the pics... It looks like it's chucking it down there as well  :o

So... I guess it only needs to cycle when the pit is full or slurry then ???

They look like greaseable bearings as well.... I bet some farmer will forget to give them a pump on a regular basis... not that you would I know  ;)

How long do the wearing parts last ???

Sorry for all the questions... but it is fascinating  :-[

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http://www.redrock-engineering.com/super-flow-pump.aspx

thats the pump that i,ll use ..........

why the change in law i wish i knew really farmer A was out say on Tuesday spreading slurry ,farmer B on Friday and then Farmer C on Monday thats the way it was over the winter now when the ban ends Farmer A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I............. will be out sreading because all there tanks is full  :D :D :D

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Ah I see... it's clearer now... thanks Stephen for getting the pics... It looks like it's chucking it down there as well  :o

So... I guess it only needs to cycle when the pit is full or slurry then ???

They look like greaseable bearings as well.... I bet some farmer will forget to give them a pump on a regular basis... not that you would I know  ;)

How long do the wearing parts last ???

Sorry for all the questions... but it is fascinating  :-[

no worries about the questions

How long do the wearing parts last ???
now Marky i cant answer that one sorry but its like how long is a piece of string ............ theres not much to go wrong as long as we keep stones out
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