Tractorman810 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 it is scary ,and i bet you now betters being developed as we type somewhere to, recon the scrapers arround today may well be the last tractor ones we see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I have a threory that all the 'billy basic' models like Hattie wil be... it's just the highly electronic versions that won't be about.... I'm a real fan of good old enginering... soloniods and switches if necessary... but not software to do everything as it is now days Here here...billy boy here seconds that too ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 it's not just the tractors that have changed really it's also the farmers & drivers attitudes that have changed & the cab that the technology sits in , i mean could you really see any major electrical computer parts surviving in a workday tractor such as the MF590 or FORD 6600 that was full of mud & dust 90% of the time & working in all weathers with the back windows open ? where as todays drivers have an old bit of carpet at least in the cab & windows securely shut the advance of the computer also steadies the workload it has as well unlike older tractors with got to get it done drivers are in the past as modern tractors are given that little bit more of everything before it would reach it's stress limitation the engines are built to handle power upgrades , where as a 4 year old 590 or 66 with a turbo added were liable to go bang ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 the MF590 or FORD 6600 that was full of mud & dust 90% of the time & working in all weathers with the back windows open ? My 590 never was, Marcus But I think it's more the drivers attitudes rather than the farmers. Now I am not a professional tractor user, but from the articles I have read the computers part of the 3000 and 3600 were actually pretty reliable considering they were pretty much the first in the market. But it does beg the question, what will be the yard scrapers of 2020? I agree - the 3000s were extremely reliable but relatively simple. Anything that doesn't have electronics (including combines) is fair game for export at the moment - look at the trade in NH 8070s. So there may be nothing left to scrape with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 as i said john, its almost sinclair zx80 for the 3000 fergy and all singing and dancing modern desktop now in the new stuff, simple works multi function means more to go wrong, the computor goes down the tractor wont work, at least a 3000 fergy would still start and drive ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithy140 Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 completely agree. we have never had a probelm with our JD6510 in 18months of having it whereas our nieghbors 2 6630's are always having computer faults. A month ago he had one that wouldn't let him work it at over 1500 revs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 My 590 never was, Marcus But I think it's more the drivers attitudes rather than the farmers. ah but then you do seem to be the forums exception to every rule john :D not seen a pic of your 590 john pic please as i said john, its almost sinclair zx80 for the 3000 fergy and all singing and dancing modern desktop now in the new stuff, simple works multi function means more to go wrong, the computor goes down the tractor wont work, at least a 3000 fergy would still start and drive ok hmm to a degree yes sean they would , but then having a tractor that cant actually do any work means it's as good as a tractor that won't start, nearly all the electronic faults with the 'computer' on the 3000 could be reset by pushing a magic button under the cab , or just replacing the damaged board , or simply a fuse, nowadays new tractors need to be reconfigured or reprogrammed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/32 farmer Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 hmm to a degree yes sean they would , but then having a tractor that cant actually do any work means it's as good as a tractor that won't start, nearly all the electronic faults with the 'computer' on the 3000 could be reset by pushing a magic button under the cab , or just replacing the damaged board , or simply a fuse, nowadays new tractors need to be reconfigured or reprogrammed the only problem there mjb tis where they put the magic button or box was right under the cab were it collected all the rain water and they were all going wrong and at £3000 + each and you cant move them as i found out on a 3090 i had years ago every 100 hrs a new box (tractor now in scrapyard) as it used to mess up my linag controls and gear box high-low box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 the only problem there mjb tis where they put the magic button or box was right under the cab were it collected all the rain water and they were all going wrong and at £3000 + each and you cant move them as i found out on a 3090 i had years ago every 100 hrs a new box (tractor now in scrapyard) as it used to mess up my linag controls and gear box high-low box ah are you thinking of the main electric box under the righthand front floor pannel ? yes they did tend to suffer none more so than my 3080, well it certainly started to suffer when the boss started to reprograme it with a 1/4lb ball pein hammer :D every so often id have permanent 4wd,no PTO & no hydraulics , but a quick reboot with the hammer would get it going again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/32 farmer Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 thats the one and the hammer good untill they go through ;D the main brain on the ruddy thing but my 7810 ford never gave me a ground to comlain doing the same job even with the miles i used to cover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 no there's a magic reset button under the nearside of the cab, real awkward to get to , but a quick press of that got all my hydraulics working again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractortim Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 ah yes i remember having to belt that box on your tractor all it needed really was a good tap but the boss seemed to like to really belt it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 hmm.... anthony never really was the gently gently type with the hammer :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 forgot to mention... I've sent my new trailer back to marston today to have a litle bit more than the 'whiff' of paint it's currently sporting... Upon closer inspection this trailer appears to have one coat of primer... and one very thin coat of red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1/32 farmer Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 forgot to mention... I've sent my new trailer back to marston today to have a litle bit more than the 'whiff' of paint it's currently sporting... Upon closer inspection this trailer appears to have one coat of primer... and one very thin coat of red that was done espsily for you so it catches up with the rust on the other 2 tractors :D :D :D :D * * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 blimey thats not good quallity control by them is it, no matter what colour it is , i dont ever remember our blue 8 tonner having paint issues, other than fade , know they are cheap compaired to others but thats no reason to skimp on paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's pretty poor really... looks to me like they've used cheap paint as well... it smells like it's not cured if that makes sense \ Hey ho.. it's costing them to put it right anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 You were dead right too then Mark but is disappointing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 so does this mean they'll do it in proper MF colours , all red with yellow wheels or red body , black chassis & silver wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 so does this mean they'll do it in proper MF colours , all red with yellow wheels or red body , black chassis & silver wheels Oh Marcus... you are sooooo out of date... MF's are now MF50th Red and Fendt Grey You were dead right too then Mark but is disappointing! Thanks Colm... it wasn't a huge amount of money... but it's more a point of principal really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Oh Marcus... you are sooooo out of date... MF's are now MF50th Red and Fendt Grey i think it's more suited to the 240 , so old style would suit the trailer not these new fandangled colours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Oh No no no no no no no no no no (in thw words of the Chruchill dog)... It's new.. so it's got to be new colours... Mavis needs an old school MF200 trailer really... and one day... when Mrs F lets me loose with her purse again she will have one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Oh No no no no no no no no no no (in thw words of the Chruchill dog)... It's new.. so it's got to be new colours... Mavis needs an old school MF200 trailer really... and one day... when Mrs F lets me loose with her purse again she will have one Missed two crackers recently in a sale in Cambridge or Norfolk that was profiled in Classic Tractor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 bought any more bits for it then mark , or will work slow down & wait till next spring / summer , you'll have to get it ready for next years yesdays farming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted November 28, 2009 Author Share Posted November 28, 2009 Just had a new window fitted in the cab to replace the perspex one she had.. also bought a fuel run off pipe which I belive to be leaking (and the sealing washers of course)... lets hope it's not the fuel tank though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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