Smithy140 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 you say about having them 2 years. our neighbour changes his every 2 years. normallly has the biggest CR on offer and he has 2 so thats 1 every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 you say about having them 2 years. our neighbour changes his every 2 years. normallly has the biggest CR on offer and he has 2 so thats 1 every year alright if you can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 alright if you can afford it. On paper it probably works out cheaper than your combine i know of one farm that ran 3 NH CRs and they were putting over 2000 acres through each machine. There must be a point where depriciation really kicks in and i suppose it works out cheaper to replace every 2 years than 5 say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 it is mark, we swapped ours every 3 or 4 years, new and paid for, but that was in the times of the big ec payouts ect, times were good then so to speak, and i dont remember a bad harvest like recently so we rarely had drying costs ect to worry about now its all rush and cut when you can, last x years have been wet and costs are low for the material when bought, yet still they are doing the same, amazing to me to be honest, granted its mostly the big contractors and farmers, but still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Had a look in FW today at the price of the combines, alot of money to fork out for a bit of machinery that spends most of the year sitting in a barn realy Thats always been the case. I dont know why the trailed combine never took off in the uk i thought the Kidd trailed combine would change things but it just dissapeared. A farm i worked on used to take the wheels off the combine and put on the tractor to make use of them and i know of one farm in the early 70s that used to take the engines out of combines after harvest being 6cyl to put in tractors for the autumn work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 i was reading Biso have made a 12m header it makes me wonder how much bigger combines will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Anyone interested in what a 60 hour Claas lexion 580+ with 35ft vario costs then... As we just bought one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I'd say £150.000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi6920 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 The 2 year replacemnet thing might be becouse its onslod with some warenty for the next guy to make the second hand deal better? i know a guy that has cat diggers and buys them with 3000hr warentys and trades up at 2000hrs to keep 1000hrs for next owner he recons he deffntly sells his machines like that, he kept his fav digger till 4000hrs and had a hard time getting that sold.. go figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Gentlemen........... You seem to be missing the point with the cost. No one can buy a combine on the final price.... you need to think of it as a cost per hectare or cost per ton... Combines these days do have more electronics but they are no where near the level of technology in a car or truck.... As for replacement costs and timelines, people are being pushed to sell more combines, or still sell them after the financial crisis and grain price fluctuation etc... Claas for example will slash prices from one machine just to shift it, then advertise it for a lot of money in the Farmers weekly so it looks like they hold their value. Then they make up the money by charging the customers who will not move from claas the full price and a bit more.... this is where they make their money. Like i say, look at the productivity of these machines not the cost, this is why i cannot see the point of these articles in the press.. For example, the John Deere T560i which is a 5 straw walker can out perform a Lexion 6 straw walker 540. Also, the T670 was proven to be 13% more productive than the New Holland CX8090.... That video shows (in french) how successful it is..... So.... productivity and cost per ton or per Ha is the key............ Hope that helps......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash 600 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 the price you see in fw and other mags is list price you get them much cheaper than that we change ours every two years we have a new lexion 600 this year and are getting rid of a 580 for another one i think they are still over priced for what they are crazy money for a machine that spends most of its life in a shed with the way grain prices are going i dont think there will be to many sold next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 the price you see in fw and other mags is list price you get them much cheaper than that we change ours every two years we have a new lexion 600 this year and are getting rid of a 580 for another one i think they are still over priced for what they are crazy money for a machine that spends most of its life in a shed with the way grain prices are going i dont think there will be to many sold next year Especially not in Ireland given all the grass seeds that have and will go in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ploughmaster Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 i was reading Biso have made a 12m header Rumour is that Biso aren't the only ones it makes me wonder how much bigger combines will get. Rumour also has it "quite a lot bigger"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Gentlemen........... You seem to be missing the point with the cost. No one can buy a combine on the final price.... you need to think of it as a cost per hectare or cost per ton... Combines these days do have more electronics but they are no where near the level of technology in a car or truck.... True the basic calculation is done that way but Ha cut per season (allowing for over or even under capacity) defines the machine size and it is still an estimate - you don't know what your costs were until you sell it. Turning a machine around every 2/3 years makes sense if you are trying to pin down costs accurately but not necessarily cheapest on a big acreage where the combine is getting towards 'occasional failure' hours at the end of the period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwain Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 that claas avero is one ugly combine \ \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leylandboy Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 so what is the new Massey Ferguson Delta combine going to cost then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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