the other green Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 This is our corral (cattle pens) cleaning outfit. First is the Deutz Agrotron 110 complete with economy ballast weight. Second picture is the 4.70 pulling a 425 bu. Leon Silver Spreader. It has a hydraulic push bulkhead. Great spreader, easy to operate and requires low horsepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fendt pwr Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Nice tractors,dose a bit of work that agrotron of yours. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other green Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 ......the 574 pulling a Concord 8 tonne spreader. The spreader is really a Belarus, Concord seems to be a name they cooked up. This is quite a load for the IH but y' gotta do what y' gotta do. Right at this point is where the trouble starts. Dunno if you can tell but it's just starting to snow and with the weight hanging off the back of the spreader...the whole outfit comes to a spinning halt. Picture 2 is the remedy. Borrow yer mate's JD 4240. We've been doing this for the last 2 years and no, colour has nowt to do with it, 5000lbs and 50 extra HP does. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Or the whole outfit catapults into the sky, although I think it was the JD and driver that was the cause of this mishap :o : Nice pics though tog, can't beat a good bit of muck spreading ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 Love the pics! Ever think of buying some rear wheel weights for the IH? Meanwhile, what are the tyre sizes on the 4.70, and does it have a 4 or 5 cylinder engine? S: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other green Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 Aye, we've done that a time or two Nathan. normally it's 'cos we lost an "R" clip from the drawbar pin or once on the 4.70 we lost the drawbar I can get out there with the loader, push the spreader down and we can be hooked up and away in a couple of minutes, that's small tatties now. No probs this year but last year we lost the whole beater section off the Concord. That was a lot of loader lifting and a few bolts and back in business. What worries me most about that spreader is the tyres. I know I'll never find replacements over here. SPN, I looked for a while for weights but couldn't find a set. It's just a bit too hard on the wee tractor, that job anyway (not to mention the operator) and when our mate offered the 4240 it sounded like the right remedy. Once we're done at home, we go and clean corrals for him, not a big job and no dosh changes hands. Rears on the 4.70 are Goodyear dyna-torque2s 18.4-34 Don't remember the fronts but I'll look later. 4 cylinder turboed engine although I think the turbo is worn-out. The tractor runs hot for an air-cooled engine, all the usual stuff is fine but my engine specialists say if the turbo is worn it could be creating a restriction and creating heat build-up so if I've got the cash, the turbo's coming off this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakescot Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 cool pics TOG ,you are a busy boy!!!! I was lookin at the IH pic, I`m impressed by the lack of gutters for the middle of winter...but then remembered the fact you are probably freezing at -15 or so .................wife`s thermal tights n big pants required I`d say !!!!!!............keep em comin ! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 nice pics tog,can't sauy i would fancy doing the muck spreading with out a cab,the guy driving looks frozen to death :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other green Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 SPN, I've given you the wrong info. the 4.70 has 18.4 x 38s and 11.00 x 16 fronts. John, it wasn't too bad then but this year was awful, terrible gutters after the second day, all the weight on the hitch of the Deutz 4.70 meant it was okay but Dad ahad some "fun" in the 4240. By the time we were done it was like ruts you couldn't climb out of if you'd wanted. A far better job at about -5. Not too cold that the s**t freezes in the spreader overnight. That's m' brother tractorman810, where there's no sense, there's no feeling. Actually, he doesn't mind the crappy jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 nice pics TOG like the 4.70, real gutsy little tractors,very quick & agile , are there many other deutz round near you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnP Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 nice pics TOG how do you manage when it does get to -15 or so - stay indoors ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 cool pics TOG ,you are a busy boy!!!!? I was lookin at? the IH pic, I`m impressed by the lack of gutters? for the middle of winter...but then remembered? the fact you are probably freezing at -15 or so .................wife`s thermal tights n big pants required I`d say !!!!!!............keep em comin ! John Nice to have you back John!! : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 SPN, I've given you the wrong info. the 4.70 has 18.4 x 38s and 11.00 x 16 fronts. I thought you might say that! I feel a DX110 : JD4020 hybrid with DX 4.70 decals coming on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I thought you might say that! I feel a DX110 : JD4020 hybrid with DX 4.70 decals coming on! It would be nice to see how you get on with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other green Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 Mjb1, there are a lot of older Deutz tractors in our area, DXs and 6.30s etc. Our Agrotron, however, is the only one for about 150 miles, you see, Deutz left the North American market in the late '80s I think and have only returned a few years ago so we missed out on the whole Agroxtra and early Agrotrons type of stuff (just as well, I'm told). JohnP, not trying to sound like a big-shot, but -15 is no big deal. The air is dryer so it's not a damp cold. The coldest we've ever ran a tractor was at -43 trust me, your heart is in your mouth. Oil is as thick as grease, seals are like aluminium, even the seat fabric doesn't compress. We run 0-30 weight engine oil, coolant is always up to -50 strength and fuel has a lot of additive. We "plug the tractor in". This means that in place of one of the frost-plugs there is a heat element (like a small kettle element) this is plugged into the mains by a cord and keeps the engine block warm. On one tractor we had, we also had a battery blanket, a little electric blanket to keep the battery warm. This tractor would start outside at -30 if it wasn't too windy. Wind-chill is a big factor, if it's not windy, it sure helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fendt pwr Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 You soon find out in the morning if ya did'nt plug the tractor in properly hey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other green Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 OH YEAH!! The dog was chasing a rat in the tractor shed one night and managed to pull the cord out at the wall-plug, was dinner-time before we got going that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fendt pwr Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 That was my story too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 didnt read all this but screw wheel weight fill tyres with water on small tractorsit'll suprise ya the grip you get!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the other green Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 Yeah, that'd be a laugh riot at -15 celsius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnP Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I know about that from our guys who have been out to work with the Hawks at Cold Lake They say they can barely get out of a car and into the nearest building before the cold has sucked the air out of their lungs and they are shattered ! But the locals know how to keep them planes flying ! It's not necessarily that we're softies, just that we don't gear ourselves up to regular severe conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakescot Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Nice to have you back John!!? : Ha ha Doc , nice to be here contributing a little and lowering the tone as one does !!!!!!! John I`ve only seen dung frozen in a spreader once that I couldnt shift and was my own fault, left a gate open , sheep ran away down the road , I had to go get them , by the time they were rounded up it was time to go do the chores, just hitched off the tractor and left the spreader sitting full................-13 we had that night BRRRRRRR I alway think I`ll learn and stop doin silly things but I never seem to John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 ha ha! okay cold countried people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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