Tractorman810 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 you could almost see a uh co-operation getting done seeing as most of that bar the tank is already being made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Thank you for the new photo's Arno, Recon it will be a lemken seeder of some sort , see a good few of those online Sean,the Lemken combo would certainly be the most popular if put to a vote,with one little snag,U H have the Lemken license at the moment,personally,I still think the Zunhammer will be what Wiese would prefer Zunhammer have built loads of tanks for the old 3800,but the tank in my picture above has been specially made to fit this new 4000 series,here is a photo of the old style tank,much smaller than the new one,also you can see two " nipples " at the back of the Xerion cab,must be there for something, Regards Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 you and your nipples joe :laugh: :laugh: there's nothing to say lemken wont change, after all, uh did the first xerions, then wiking now weise, never seen a saddle trac, but at a guess the nipples would be a standard part for any implement to fit to??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 you and your nipples joe :laugh: :laugh: there's nothing to say lemken wont change, after all, uh did the first xerions, then wiking now weise, never seen a saddle trac, but at a guess the nipples would be a standard part for any implement to fit to??? Nipples, :laugh: fair call Sean,forgot both U H and Wiking have now done Xerions with Wiese following shortly,i reckon though with these "protrusions", being where they are it would need to be a fairly specific implement to fit on there,and they are in the wrong place for cab mounts,don't think Saddle Trac's have cab mount anyway,the cab will be fixed where it is above the engine, Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Someone say nipples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Oh ball-links did they Barry? Where , can't have language like that on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM190 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I remember building a Saddle-Trac out of the very first Xerion UH did and putting the lemken drill on her.. That was a day or two ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Any pictures Blake,be nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The Xerion Saddle Trac has indeed a fixed cab. I reckon that the two ball couplings on the rear platform are for the Claas weight package as there are none at the back (for mounting machinery) and they are in the wrong position for a goose neck slurry tank. If they were to do a tank for the Xerion it would probably be an SGT. The numbers of saddle tanks they sell is far greater than Zunhammer and Kotte etc.. I wonder if the slurry tank would be sold separate though, more likely as a complete model? Both the Xerion models look fine to me and Weise can be trusted for very high quality models but Wiking wasn't to bad? At least if the Sieper Werke had done them you could knock € 40 off the price! Edit: Still no clue what the two ball couplings are for but I read on the Agrarmodellbau Forum that there will be 2 versions of the Xerions. First will be a 'Claas' edition exclusively for Claas to market. Will have a Claas box, no brand name etched on the tyres, a 50 km/h sign and a GT number plate (Claas' own fleet all have GT prefix). Then there will be a second version with standard box, 40 Km/h decal, branded wheels and a random number plate. Hopefully that one will be cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 The 6.38 looks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The Xerion Saddle Trac has indeed a fixed cab. I reckon that the two ball couplings on the rear platform are for the Claas weight package as there are none at the back (for mounting machinery) and they are in the wrong position for a goose neck slurry tank. If they were to do a tank for the Xerion it would probably be an SGT. The numbers of saddle tanks they sell is far greater than Zunhammer and Kotte etc.. I wonder if the slurry tank would be sold separate though, more likely as a complete model? Both the Xerion models look fine to me and Weise can be trusted for very high quality models but Wiking wasn't to bad? At least if the Sieper Werke had done them you could knock € 40 off the price! Edit: Still no clue what the two ball couplings are for but I read on the Agrarmodellbau Forum that there will be 2 versions of the Xerions. First will be a 'Claas' edition exclusively for Claas to market. Will have a Claas box, no brand name etched on the tyres, a 50 km/h sign and a GT number plate (Claas' own fleet all have GT prefix). Then there will be a second version with standard box, 40 Km/h decal, branded wheels and a random number plate. Hopefully that one will be cheaper! Oh I hope your wrong Niels,took a bit of finding,but I did get there eventually,the new SGT tanker for the new Xerion 4000 looks hideous,imho Not to keen on the "road wheel" supporting the front suction equipment either, Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Not built to be pretty joe , built to work hard and fast . That said it doesn't look that bad if it does get made, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 i think i have to agree with Niels the ball joints/nipples,whatever you want to call them are mountings for the weights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianih634 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The nipples are there on the real machine to give mounting points for whatever demount system you fit to it. Gives a standard for all implement makers to work to and ensuring that they are mounted to the designed strong points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The nipples are there on the real machine to give mounting points for whatever demount system you fit to it. Gives a standard for all implement makers to work to and ensuring that they are mounted to the designed strong points. Cheers Brian,do you know how demount systems are mounted at the rear of the machine,?? pictures are near none existent, Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 see I told you that ages back joe :laugh: :laugh: was to obvious really give where they are and what the machines capable off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianih634 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Joe, I cannot see anything at the back on the pictures, but am pretty sure there is a similar system at the back to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Well Joe speaking purely from estatic reasons I'd much rather see a Kaweco tanker on the back of the 4000 than any saddle tank. Personally I'd prefer the SGT or Kotte over a Zunhammer for looks. Like Sean says it's there to do a job of course not to be pretty. The wheel will probably be there for tight German road regulations. The ball joints on the back will probably act like a kind of twistlock system than, similar to that used on lorry's. When you look up images on the net the weight platform goes over it as well so will probably work for both. Makes sense. Funny though that Weise do the Xerion now but DO use the Wiking weights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I completely agree with you Niels,it's all about personal preference,and what your accustomed to,the only farm near me that handles a lot of slurry uses an umbilical hose straight from the farm storage tank,so tractor mounted tanks are virtually unknown to me,I'm just going by what appeals best to me,I reckon you would probably prefer one of these, Where as I think this looks better sitting on the New Xerion 4000 Although I would like to see someone do this for the Old Xerion 3800 Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 No I hadn't seen that Arno but surely Claas will stand to correct that you'd say? Joe, that is the old model Kaweco yes. This is the new one launched at Agritechnica for the 4000: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Thanks for that Niels,that ones not on Kaweco's web site yet, :- Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Holey Moley,we all thought the Samson was BIG, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3habKgcnmbU Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Joe look theme some of them nipple mounts mate ha ha! I know text talk but I can't add smileys via the I phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Cheers Arno,I take it that's the ST plus the three axle tanker trailer,any idea how wide that dribble bar boom is,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsUCi-Q9FPs :of Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm liking that Saddle Trac,and the Xerion is none to shabby,apart from that front wheel, > pictures courtesy of FarmModel news Facebook page, I'm guessing these are still early prototypes,as I believe the release date is July,also reckon these must have been take at the model show this weekend,http://www.modelshow-europe.com/ Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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