BigX500 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 last weeks demo to finish the maize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 THEE best looking forager at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigX500 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Nice to drive.Driver comfort and ease of maintenance top Fendt priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Wonder when a red one will come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I'd quite like a Siku priced one! Although their SP machinery aren't far off the more detailed stuff these days, saying that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 How does it compare to your own forager? Would you swap and change your user name to Katana 65? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I can't see why anyone one would want to buy a Katana unless they are utterly Fendt mad. Saw it in action against a Jaguar 960 and certainly disappointed me and both the contractor that was running it. Really nothing innovative about it! If I had to today I'd probably put my money on the new John Deere series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I can't see why anyone one would want to buy a Katana unless they are utterly Fendt mad. Saw it in action against a Jaguar 960 and certainly disappointed me and both the contractor that was running it. Really nothing innovative about it! If I had to today I'd probably put my money on the new John Deere series. I heard the same Niels about the katana. The capacity is to low and and the result from the maize isnt that good. Don't think this harvester will make the difference. Think also that John Deere is back with thsi new harvester. Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigX500 Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 We had good results with maize not got the output has the bigx x, would like to try in grass first.But does it matter if the outputs down 200acres a day with the bigx in grass, if we drop 20acres of it give the clamping more time to make the silage that what counts. Also 5 years warranty parts and labour inc for the Fendt only 1 with krone its tempting plus fuel costs are still and will be a big factor for many years to come. John Deere £20000 more than a Krone they priced them self out if not careful. Mike no username still bigx 500 ha ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 We had good results with maize not got the output has the bigx x, would like to try in grass first.But does it matter if the outputs down 200acres a day with the bigx in grass, if we drop 20acres of it give the clamping more time to make the silage that what counts. Also 5 years warranty parts and labour inc for the Fendt only 1 with krone its tempting plus fuel costs are still and will be a big factor for many years to come. John Deere a contractor who I work for over 15yrs ago use to run 3 claas then moved to JD has been running the prototype for JD testing the last 4yrs over here not over impressed and £20000 more than a Krone they priced them self out if not careful. Mike no username still bigx 500 ha ha! When the katana does 20 acres less it cost the contractor money. Overhere the contractors want to do a max for acres a day. Also you see more often 2 loaders on the pit to keep the train going fast. The katana could only drive 4.5 km and the claas 6,5. Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stabliofarmer Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Does this sort of suggest the Katana is a better machine for a farmer to have while the class stays the contractors friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CX820Joe Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Do many farmers tend to have their own SPFH? I don't know of any around my area, though there are a few contractors with them - one I think even has 2. I guess the older machines would be good buys if they have been well looked after if a farm wanted to do their own instead of relying on contractor and their availability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Gough Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Do many farmers tend to have their own SPFH? I don't know of any around my area, though there are a few contractors with them - one I think even has 2. I guess the older machines would be good buys if they have been well looked after if a farm wanted to do their own instead of relying on contractor and their availability I imagine it depends on the area and ultimatelly the area the farm will be chopping in year. Around here the only farm i can think of with their own SPFH is Lakham College but they can also use it as a teachng tool. Some farms run a trailed due to a chaper running cost and a tractor to use at other times f the year. If these farms also grows maize they tend to have a contractor in to cut it. Back to the Fendt, its nice to see and hear others peoples verdicts of the machine. Have yet to trailer alongside one yet despite the contractor i work for trying one for a day on grass and his forager driver trying one on maize. His verdict was that he didnt think it was as good as his Claas but still a good machine to use. Dont think it looks too bad next to a Fendt tractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 The Fendt certainly isn't a bad forage harvester and well put together after plenty of years of testing. However, the market is overcrowded with Claas, NH, JD and Krone. I just can't see what makes the Fendt stand out from the crowd. Maybe a good deal like Ben is pointing out. With such machine service is sometimes more important than output. Odd though they are a premium brand for tractors and a budget brand for SPFH's. I don't think they had anticipated in Marktoberdorf, Bavaria, that the biogas industry would collapse that quickly in a matter of two years when they started designing it. The market is now looking for perfect chopping quality, yield mapping and low fuel consumption rather than 1000HP+ engines and 14+ row headers. On the Fendt the headers are standard stuff, the cab is not the best (pillar at the back to name something), the controls are handy but are they really much better than JD or Krone?, the engine is nothing special and the corn cracker is known stuff. The chute and drum are good and very well accessible but when I hear Deere's store I can't help but feeling Fendt have nothing to show for. Fendt dedicated contractors will get (or have) Claas or Krone. Fendt dealers on the continent sell most of the Krone harvesters. Difficult to wedge yourself in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 11, 2014 Share Posted November 11, 2014 are the headers bought in for these then?? as every pic I have seen seems to have a red kemper?? or a likes header on it ,just wondering if fendt supply their own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 The grass pick-up and maize header are all sourced from Kemper. The first models for testing/demonstrations had Fendt coloured headers but I was told if you buy a Katana today it will be red headers only. Was also told by the Fendt chap there will be frames available so you can fit a Krone or Claas header if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 I remember reading pre launch that KATANA means "JAGUAR SLAYER" Maybe there not going to live up to this bold statement. The grass headers are kemper made and I also think I remember reading that JD use a similar header and have an agreement with kemper regarding grass and maize headers. I spent a summer in Germany a few years back and when you see there maize acreage and average field size you understand why big hp and two engines are required,very often its a case of hp overkill here in UK. If the output is down on a big x then why would anyone consider them a better buy than a Class or JD? Did I also red that the crop rollers and cutting drum are vario controlled to only have them working as fast as is required in differing conditions thus saving fuel etc? It was a huge step for Agco to enter this market as you really would need cutting edge developments over the competition to attract the buyer, mf used to market badge engineered Mengele machines but to design and build an entirely new machine was a massive risk and fair play to them to undertake such a challenge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 Fendt takes big risk to go on the market with a harvester but it's a challenge. I think there toughts are that many contractors drives Fendt tractors will also go for a Fendt harvester. But a harvester is something diffirent then a tractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted November 12, 2014 Share Posted November 12, 2014 cheers neils ,just something I noticed, given the wiking mode has got a fendt header I assumed they all would for real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The header is red and the harvester black. A limited edition from wiking for Agritechnica 2015 or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B O R Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Now who wouldnt like that, its like the Subaru of foragers, i think if its not released then ill have to do one for myself. I have a soft spot for black Fendts as it is!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I remember reading pre launch that KATANA means "JAGUAR SLAYER" Maybe there not going to live up to this bold statement. Katana means sword in Japanese. What we would call a Ninja sword I guess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana So Nothing to do with Jaguars @Sean: The first ones all did (prototype run) and in the brochures but all the ones that got sold have red Kempers. I believe, if my mind serves me right, they were available to buy in German from last year or this year onwards. Before that you could hire/lease one off the factory that would take it back to evaluate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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