Gav836 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Very smart sprayer there though mate what you think of it? Is it a 24m? If so I'm amazed at only 4 sections for the whole out fit but box looks easier then the Sands to understand Thanks, yes its 24m, our previous one was a 4 section machine as well, starts over complicating it if you go up to anymore really. From what I remember of our old Sands where I used to work they are overly complicated in many ways, just wait until you get an air leak Very nice new sprayer you have there. Didn't know you can spray liquid fertilizer with it. texas Thanks, you can put liquid on with most sprayers, in our case we're using special fertiliser nozzles on it though, I'll get some pictures of them at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 And there was me getting excited that JD's were going to be disappearing off the farm and more come in Looks good but like all the JD's seems to have a high centre of gravity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 I only said that there would be no more JD tractors on the farm It's not too bad for balance but there is a warning both in the book and from the dealer that the 400ltr rinse tank must be kept full at all times when the main tank is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 So Gav, with the recent sagas involving your Deere machinery why this purchase over a sprayer made by a sprayer company? It looks a serious bit of kit but are they known for their performance or anything over say a Hardi or Berthoud etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 Well the end chice came down to Berthoud, Knight or John Deere, unfortunately despite our desire to buy British built the Knight was way out of our budget leaving just Berthoud and JD, it was a close run thing but at the end of the day the JD won on several points: Mudguards fitted to protect nozzles - not an option on Berthoud Clean water tank fillable off the ground - involved climbing up the front to the Berthoud, also larger on the JD Better suspension on the JD Build quality of the JD better and stronger, quite a weight difference between the two Concerns over foaming in the tank on the Berthoud, rep says no they dont, I said they do as we used to run two of them and our current mounted one does as well Good local dealer support, nearest Berthoud agent is 50+ miles away 2 of our neighbours run JD sprayers and praise them, another one has just bought one as well so they come recommended to us Induction bowl much larger on the JD JD controls much more straightforward to use It was really a case of get the leaflets in front of us and compare them, boss made his choice then gave me the leaflets to look at to see what my thoughts were and we both said that the JD looked the better machine of the two based on all the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 I'd love one of those but i need the 6 numbers to come up 1st!! are they not near as costly as new new tractor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 3, 2010 Author Share Posted March 3, 2010 I can't remember what the final price was exactly but it was around the £23-25k mark, the Knight, well that was shocking, boss never did say anymore but the price he last told me was just over £40k :of Would you need a 3200 litre model with tracking drawbar for your area though Ricky? We only went tracking because of growing potatoes and sugarbeet \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODELFARMER Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 well we only have 200 acres odd, cover it with a mounted 15m hardi with 1000litre tank. I'd prefere trailed and wider, when i take over the spraying thats the way i'll go. Are there baffles in the tank to stop surging of only half full? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Gav when did you make the switch to Omex? I take it the storage tank is one of theirs (normally an ex rail tanker). Are you on N26 or N30? Will you be using the umberalla nozzles? Theyre brilliant in my opinion much better than the standard drip bars. Have you thought about having suspension fert by Omex for the P+K? After a while you will find out why the Knight was more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Seems a nice sprayer Gav. Saw a lorry passing here last week going to the ferry with one of these, plus a self propelled one, on. Must have been yours then. They are gaining popularity here as well, Deere are really pushing them. Shame the booms either crack or fall off . But with 24m that shouldn't be such an issue hopefully. If you ever consider working in Holland for a while, don't spray. Most sprayers here have 13 sections . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 Gav when did you make the switch to Omex? I take it the storage tank is one of theirs (normally an ex rail tanker). Are you on N26 or N30? Will you be using the umberalla nozzles? Theyre brilliant in my opinion much better than the standard drip bars. Have you thought about having suspension fert by Omex for the P+K? After a while you will find out why the Knight was more expensive. This is our first season on the Omex stuff Simon, we've used them for putting the suspension fertiliser on before potatoes and sugarbeet for years but have been unable to sensibly go to liquid fertilser ourselves until we upgraded to a trailed sprayer. We're using the TeeJet Stream jet nozzles for applying it. Its the N20 with sulphur we're on at the moment but we do have a tank of N30 as well Our sprayer was delivered to the dealers nearly 3 weeks ago Niels so it wouldn't have been ours that you saw last week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Heres a few more pictures from this week, first one is of the two liquid fertilizer tanks, second is a standard sprayer nozzle and the third is the one of the fertilizer nozzles Three of some of the calves we've had so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 We've also got the contractor in at the moment lifting the last of our sugarbeet, brand new harvester agin for this season, has done just over 900hrs with it at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gav836 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Doesn't take long to get a trailer loaded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Some lovely pictures there Gavalar...thanks for sharing... I see the Liquid Fert nozzle is very different from a standard spray nozzle.. does it not need to be so specific in terms of pattern mate and is it quite a thick, vicous liquid then As for the Beet harvester.... what a monster... how many acres can that thing clock up a day then mate What speed does it work at... and how many rows does it harvest at a time Oh questions questions :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 The liquid fertiliser could be put on with standard nozzles but then you could lose a lot in spray drift, with these nozzles there's zero drift and everything that comes out of them ends up on the ground. The fertiliser is thicker than water, water being approx 1kg/litre, this is 1.23kg/litre. Its a 6 row harvester, in a good day it would probably lift 30 acres plus in ideal conditions. Speed is dependant on ground conditions and yield but probably anything up to 10-12kph I would guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 Neat sprayer, Gav. I looked at the mounted JD a few years back, but price ruled it out believe it or not. Lifting beet and the soil's not even sticking to the wheels - up here nobody can plough or even spread muck it's so soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 We think its the beet that have actually helped to keep it dry, but it is wetter than it looks in the pictures, after taking 13 loads of beet out of the field onto the road it was 3 inches deep in mud We actually have a few niggling "issues" with the sprayer at the minute waiting to be sorted out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 5, 2010 Author Share Posted March 5, 2010 Yes that was us, well spotted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash 600 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 nice pics gav thats one dry farm you work on hope the sprayer goes well for yous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmitemania Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 As always I love to see pictures of livestock Thanks Gav, as said the beet harvester is a bit of a monster but Im sure Ive seen an even bigger one fairly recently, might be wrong dont really know anything about beet harvesters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I thought there was no market for Sugar Beet in the UK? Do you have a sugar factory near you then Gav? PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav836 Posted March 6, 2010 Author Share Posted March 6, 2010 There's still a market for it in this area, we have the flagship Wissington factory and also Cantley factory in Norfolk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmitemania Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Still see a fair bit of beet around our way cambs sort of area, we built a housing a housing estate on the old factory site at peterborough. :'( :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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