F8N Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Hi folks,i got the latest model farmer magazine today & I see uh are going to do a limited number of sq countys, I cant beleive that they are still using the wrong mudguards of the q cab for sq cabs when they have the correct ones already in production...do they ever listen? Is there any one on here with any influence that could get them to make it a little extra special,like make sure cab features are correct both inside & out...a beefier set of tyres would really set it off too! It would be so simple for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH885XLMAN Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 ohhh can I see a pic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 UH never lost it. But I would like to know what County's are the producing with those cabs. 1474 short nose!! 7610 / 6610 FOUR !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8N Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Theres a picture of it in the magazine,its the 1884 already in production the only change is the roof of the cab & I think it says lafarge on the county decal. Iv emailed uh to change it a bit & make it special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Theres a picture of it in the magazine,its the 1884 already in production the only change is the roof of the cab & I think it says lafarge on the county decal. Iv emailed uh to change it a bit & make it special. So its a slightly altered version of the 1474 they already produced .. Lafarge produce cement, aggregates etc.. So its like a Lafarge operated County from back in day.. The probably had a few hauling Shawnee Poole dumpers around their quarries maybe in the 80's I would be thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 withut Theres a picture of it in the magazine,its the 1884 already in production the only change is the roof of the cab & I think it says lafarge on the county decal. Iv emailed uh to change it a bit & make it special. without being rude ,of course they will change it Not . the models been commissioned by model farmer mag to a certain spec , to change the base model would take retooling and all sorts of design work so would make the model un-affordable for such a small run . It can't be to far off a 1884 anyway as I have seen many conversion guys selling them as 1884's anyway at various shows and its based on a real tractor I am assuming given the Lafarge decals etc on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8N Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 I beg your pardon,i meant to say 1474 already in production,the only difference is the cab roof & decal,i also see a driver in it....surely it wouldnt mean retooling to put the right cab on it,they have quite a few models out already with the proper csb for it...just a matter of attaching I assume..plus im sure theyv pleny of slightly wider tyres in stock which would fit straight on...besides all that,did they not receive enough complaints about their tws npt to make the same mistake over again? Also model farmer have publishef these issues in their own magazine,it would be a bit embarrading to say the least to comission something they'v pointed out ad being wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.watson Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 When anything comes on line from universal hobbies there usually is a few mistakes here and there. But all is not lost, you can do one of 3 things. 1. Change the model about a bit if you have the spares and the skill. 2. Leave it as it is. 3. Go without. It's as easy as that. What a lovely thing it is, freedom of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8N Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Your right..i choose not to purchase their q cab 7610 as it was not proberly researched either,couldnt be good for busines though,expecting loyal customers to purchase bitsa's( bits of this & bits of that) anyway in any business the customer is always righy...or so they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Just change the roof change the tyres and on the list goes , I have pulled apart many a uh model now for conversions and belive me a lot of the parts are not that easy to swap , roof holes that do not line up despite looking the same , tyres that won't fit the rims you want as the gap inside is to small or large for the locating lugs on the rims . Even swapping whole wheels and tyres is hard as they use different axel sizes and diameters , as I said the so called do this is 75% of the time actually pretty hard to acheive and requires the tooling , then the model gets to expensive to do which leads to people doing the old "I ain't t buying that it's to expensive " complaint , company's will never ever please the perfectionists out there but they can give you a 95% accurate model at a sensible price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 A very familiar tune, unfortunately. We have had lots of "perfectionists" on here Sean, it would be nice to see some of their conversions/scratch builds instead of hearing the usual complaints of others efforts albeit a mainstream manufacturer. Ditto to Chris Watson's points 1 to 3. I don't doubt that I am as guilty of the same offence at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 it is paul ,and we have all been the same at some point to, me included on the mf's they have done in the past [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr softie Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 if you want a model for £40 expect it not to be 00%accurate and if you want 100% you need to get into the league of dbp, mini agri passion to name a few and you know what they cost but to a genuine collector worth every penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8N Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 I think the point is being missed,the q cab 1474 is an excellent model,one of my favourites,& except for the rear linkage exceeds the dbp county I have in some areas.eg..glazing....steering...uh know that the mudguards are wrong for a sq,they have the correct type .they are producing a model as a limited edition which is not as accurateas the origonal.they have ignored all customer suggestions.its not hard to see why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.watson Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Universal hobbies need to be cut some slack here I think. They obviously have trouble at the moment with either the manufacture of parts and/or the assembly of their models. Things have gone wrong in china for a few model manufacturers, weise, schuco and wiking are all slow getting new stuff out this year. Another thing to remember is that there has been a lot of money invested in releasing new models and in the last couple of years we have been swamped with tractors and machinery that may not have sold the volumes that were expected. Britains will always sell well as they are a toy that makes a great base model for a collector at toy prices. I personally think that, although universal hobbies don't always get things spot on, they are a great company to have in this hobby of ours, my cabinet would be half empty without them. Nigel ford, dave Purdue, b.o.r,ken Davies and of course Martyn reeve will always make top class models which are spot on for detail because they are passionate about detail and getting a great end product, which is why you pay a premium. But let's not forget they specialise in tractors and in Brian o Reilly's case machinery of farming as well. Universal hobbies are a big outfit that produce cars, bikes, buses, trucks and all sorts of other things I am sure,and what ever machine they turn up and measure will be the one that's turned into a model. Who's to say that the mudguards that they are fitting hav'nt been seen on a county somewhere, who knows...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F8N Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Well I certainly wouldnt hold back credit where credit is due,being a ford fan I was glad of the fords they released,especially the county tw35-25 q cabs & 7810/7610 sq..which I think are excellent models which look very life like in photographs...i intend posting some photos of uh models which have fooled a lot of people to think it was a real machine. Also ill post a pic of some if my marge fords beside the uh fords...beside each other they look like a different scale... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 To be fair & I wont give any names,but even the specialist model makers can get it wrong & ask big money.. not to mind the main stream brands like UH etc. But what really bugs me is some of the traders... last year at a certain show which had 6 to 7 traders. I compared the price of a certain UH model tractor & found between the traders a price of 38 to 50 euro for the same tractor . I stopped off today at a certain model shop near enough to my home for a peak at what he had & looking at his prices.. they were ridiculous...This guy is really taking the piss & I will probably never buy from him again .Example 59 Euro for a UH NewHolland T4.75!!!!!! 40 Euro for a 1/32 UH MF TE20 !!! I picked up a UH NH T4.75 a few weelks ago for 40 Euro & I tought it was still alittle pricey. But 59 quid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 bit off topic Justy,but 99% of the time i buy from a real tractor dealer better prices,or i tend to see that they are,they can order anything,if its a jd dealer for example they can still order other brands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justy 46 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 bit off topic Justy,but 99% of the time i buy from a real tractor dealer better prices,or i tend to see that they are,they can order anything,if its a jd dealer for example they can still order other brands I normally would also. Put today it was a case off " I will pop in for a look" & pick up Issue 24 of Model Farmer as i was there for a look at this UH County...I normally buy online now these days anyway or from tractor dealer..but never again from this guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I think the point is being missed,...uh know that the mudguards are wrong for a sq,they have the correct type . they may well have them ,but as mentioned will they fit the chassis casting on the 1474??? I suspect not given what the correct one are fitted to. the moment you start to recast parts to fit the cost just goes skywards ,especially for a limited run model .no ones saying your wrong in your views,or the fact they may be wrong?? (I ain't a ford/county man ) but there's a hell of a lot more to swapping parts then people think a lot of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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