1/32 farmer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 buy any plough marky BUT you will have to scrap the mf and buy another tractor say a FORD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 buy any plough marky BUT you will have to scrap the mf and buy another tractor say a FORD > > Grrrrrrrrrr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 johns right marky , the 260 isn't a very well ballanced plough but a hydraulic turnover does help as is controlled & you could be infinately adjusting it to keep it right , to even think about this plough , you'd have been better off with buying the 420 4wd version again for the 3F massey would be fine for a slightly bigger tractor of 65hp+ really my bets would be on the kv or the ransomes but as for the kv buy one you want not something you need to change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Thanks Marcus... And thanks everybody for your opinions... I AM listening... and I WILL be taking your recommendations into account... the 260 is well and truly out... as it the 3f Massey 40.... Maybe the KV on ebay will be the best bet for me just now \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I'd love to see Fanny trying to handle that 2F rev! :D Without a depth wheel its useless for match ploughing, not to mention the whole pulling the arm off yourself trying to turn it ove r. Don't touch that 3F massey, it looks like a pig of a plough The KV is a nice little plough. Converting it from 14" probably means someones gone and put No.8 bodies on it, which sounds like a good idea, but messes things up for you split/middle. It'll prob have to go back to No.3's, but they're more of a general purpose board and may not be great for match ploughing. If you're ever going to go for a KV, look out for a 14" one, that way you can always put match boards on it later. The Ransomes' look OK, but I'm not sure about the bodies. One looks like a SEMI-DIGGER TYPE, WHILE THE OTHER IS MORE OF A GENERAL PURPOSE? [Damn Caps Lock [] Not sure which is better for match work, but I'd be inclined to chose the top one just for the shape of the body Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistol pete Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 kv for me a couple of the guys at home use them a bit of a price difference. if not that then the ransom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Land Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Will you also plough your cabbage plot mate or will you only bring the plough out for ploughing fairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 The Kverneland - no contest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Its not power u need buddy, its grip. 3 furrows, and if needed rear wheel weights just for that job matter of fact ricky's right marky , with the proper use of pressure controll with the draft , your fanny should have no problem accomadating the size grip is the issue here not power i've seen a 590 2wd out perform a 590 4wd when ploughing, with the correct use of the pressure control . rear wheel ballast may be an option , but hardly worth messing about with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james f Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 matter of fact ricky's right marky , with the proper use of pressure controll with the draft , your fanny should have no problem accomadating the size grip is the issue here not power i've seen a 590 2wd out perform a 590 4wd when ploughing, with the correct use of the pressure control . rear wheel ballast may be an option , but hardly worth messing about with. For match work, you need to forget all about Harry Ferguson's wonderful invention of draft control. Match ploughing is all about eveness and uniformity so you basically plough on the depth wheel. Of course at the entry level many people will plough just like they're out in the field, but you'll soon find that many of the top ploughmen use a spool valve with a float position for the linkage, completely by-passing all the draft control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starbrush Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 ransomes plough, with bonning match bodies and a land wheel of course. also fit the biggest size discs you can get. good look marky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 For match work, you need to forget all about Harry Ferguson's wonderful invention of draft control. Match ploughing is all about eveness and uniformity so you basically plough on the depth wheel. Of course at the entry level many people will plough just like they're out in the field, but you'll soon find that many of the top ploughmen use a spool valve with a float position for the linkage, completely by-passing all the draft control. you trying to give the man a heart attack ! have you any idea what the implications of that sentence could do to this particular member \ \ AMBULANCE FOR MR CHANNEL PLEASE :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 Marcus.... :o - Fetch my pills... :o Thanks for all the comments and advice lads... I'm still taking it all in.... OL... Yes I will be ploughing the cabbage patch as well mate... I intend to plough... leave and then rotivate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archbarch Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 they all seem pricey for a bit extra you could get a much better one. go for a KV or Vogel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 Thanks.. I reckon they are a bit pricey too... don@t think I will be giving him my money in all honesty \ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 so have you decided then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allis8550 Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 johns right marky , the 260 isn't a very well ballanced plough but a hydraulic turnover does help as is controlled & you could be infinately adjusting it to keep it right , to even think about this plough , you'd have been better off with buying the 420 4wd version again for the 3F massey would be fine for a slightly bigger tractor of 65hp+ really my bets would be on the kv or the ransomes but as for the kv buy one you want not something you need to change You don't need 65hp for a three furrow conventional, your little Fanny should romp away with it. We used to plough with a three furrow 14" Overum on a 135. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow legs Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 your fanny will be fine on 3f, your a "fanny" (pardon the pun) if your frightend to pull 3 f with her, i pulled 3f with my tef20 in holderness clay! its traction not hp that counts, having said that 2f are better for match ploughing for the opening and finish, i think a 2f hyd reversable would suit it well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Nice Dowdeswell 2f here - also plenty of spares ;D http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dowdeswell-5-Furrow-reversable-plough_W0QQitemZ110066473214QQihZ001QQcategoryZ11752QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem yes John, he could strap the rest on the front to keep her down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 never seen a massey plough come anywhere in matches. I shall never forget seeing a Vogel & Noot at the '79 POWER in Action demo on the Lincs fens (boys land ) produce "horses heads" where virtually all the other ploughs were turning up lovely crumbly furrows fit to drill on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi6920 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The boys in the vtc over here love ried and gray poulghs. I myself have a 2f David brown and it dose a nice job. I have only herd good about ried and gray , vogel and noot , Ransomese any of those 3 should do. I pulled a 3f Clough with my 25 c david brown the other day. was good till i found a wet spot. all you need is good traction and you are of like a rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGEL FORD Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The boys in the vtc over here love ried and gray poulghs. I myself have a 2f David brown and it dose a nice job. I have only herd good about ried and gray , vogel and noot , Ransomese any of those 3 should do. I pulled a 3f Clough with my 25 c david brown the other day. was good till i found a wet spot. all you need is good traction and you are of like a rocket. I think DB used Ransomes bodies though didn't they? Pretty sure the ones our local contractor used were, back in the mid '70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi6920 Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think DB used Ransomes bodies though didn't they? Pretty sure the ones our local contractor used were, back in the mid '70's. Im not sure ill try and find out. i think you could be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nashmach Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Either the Ransomes or the Kverneland Marky - if you get the KV can I have the depth wheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ferguson Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 Either the Ransomes or the Kverneland Marky - if you get the KV can I have the depth wheel Yeah no problem.... Who needs a depth wheel anyway :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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