BC Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 Well it is almost two years now since that temporay shack was erected at the bottom of my back garden to make space in the garage for my new car. I'm getting a bit fed up with the sight of the shack and none of the neighbours have complained about it so I proposing to build a proper wooden shed in its place. I started putting pen to paper and thinking about it at the weekend and I have decided that the two doors will need to be 6 feet high by 6 feet wide and the overall height will be the height of the two posts at the back with the string over it. My father was trying to say it was too high but really it is lower than the greenhouse and also the Farmall A shed to the right hand side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm planning it will look a bit like the one on the right hand side but the slope will be the other way and there won't be a roof extension overhanging at the side. Hopefully it will look better than the present temporay abode Now I really must get some better plans drawn up if the project is to proceed ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 nah none of this sounds right , & is all a complete fabrication of our minds , first off no sane persone needs to have a mind bending mathematical equasion on A4 that complicated to 'knock up a shed' secondly in all my years i have never seen cheap B & Q tarps last longer than 5 minutes let alone a temp shelter ! if it was one of us the tarp would have ripped & blown away by the time we got the camera for a pic ! so what happening bill , are any of the existing sheds coming down to make way for this , or will they be joined to the new in anyway , or a complete self standing building ? as although it looks a large space to work with , i bet theres not as much room as it looks \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 nah none of this sounds right , & is all a complete fabrication of our minds , first off no sane persone needs to have a mind bending mathematical equasion on A4 that complicated to 'knock up a shed' secondly in all my years i have never seen cheap B & Q tarps last longer than 5 minutes let alone a temp shelter ! if it was one of us the tarp would have ripped & blown away by the time we got the camera for a picture ! so what happening bill , are any of the existing sheds coming down to make way for this , or will they be joined to the new in anyway , or a complete self standing building ? as although it looks a large space to work with , i bet theres not as much room as it looks \ Well Marcus I nae an all together sane person I mean who keeps 5 real tractors in their back yard. Anyway let me explain the mathematical calculations since it all about best utilization of materials. The finished roof will be done in metal profile. These sheets cover 3 meters but when I have measured my garage and other shed 3 sheets cover 121 ¼ inches. From this I deduct 2 x 16mm weatherboard = 1 ¼ inches and then another 2 inches for an inch overhang at each end. This then gives me a side frame length of 108 inches or 9 foot and 10 inches. By making the framing this size I don’t have to cut any roofing sheets. On the slope of the roof well that is mathematical too again for optimum use of weatherboarding which is 16 mm x 137 mm. that means 14 runs of weatherboard on the low side and 15 runs on the high side. On the tarpaulins there is actually Styropack curtain sides off an ex Sandy Bruce Trucking curtainsider below the Costco trapalin so it is still watertight but beginning to wear over the two years. The new shed will be self standing and none of the existing ones will be removed. Will be made sectional in the garage and assembled when the Ivor Williams trailer is and then when complete the temporary shack taken down and then rolled into place. I will have to cement between the slabs so the main bearers are on concrete and not on chuckies. It will be me father who will be making it ( he was a time served joiner with my granddad ) and I will be the labourer or “loon†and off course the paymaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted July 28, 2009 Share Posted July 28, 2009 thanks bill , must admit us lesser mortals just start with some rough sawn 4x2 & go from there & paying an extorsionate amount of money on a ad hoc basis until the finished product looks right ! at least it'll be nice to just open the doors , rather than have to unwrap it each time you want to get to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 28, 2009 Author Share Posted July 28, 2009 yes Marcus but being a bean counter it in my nature to count the pennies. ;) Yes it will be nice not to have to unwarp it and also wont look such an eyesore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Well on to the more detailed plans now And now the quantity surveying bit of the job kicks in ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robl12 Posted July 29, 2009 Share Posted July 29, 2009 Should be a rare old shed when finished Bill. Your neighbours must be very understanding mine looking disgusted when I moved a load of creels into mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 29, 2009 Author Share Posted July 29, 2009 Well I hope so Rob when it is all lined inside and fitted out with power and light. Yes I would say I have good neighbours mind you the existing 3 sheds in a line are pretty well hidden so it should not bother anyone really ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 I received the roof profile brouchure from a company called Planwell in Buckie who manufacure roof and also side profile sheeting and barges etc yesterday. I actually visted their factory back in 2003 or 2004 before I did my garage roof and saw round the factory. It was amazing to see this huge machine roll out profile sheets from just a huge reel of precoloured metal. The machine reminded me of a row of things like crankshafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 More on the products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 You can draw your plans and get them to work your roofing details for you but I just do that myself and e-mail with the sizes and quantities required in terms of sheets and barges and they work out the fillers and screws and stichers and colour caps etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 You can also get insulated roof sheeting but I won't be doing that. i can always put glass wool between the sterling board on the roof and the MDF lining in the inside if I think it is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 The final one. Now I have woprked out my requirements all I need is send an e-mail for a quotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB1 Posted July 30, 2009 Share Posted July 30, 2009 ah fabrication yards don't you just love them i know exactly what you mean bill , all round the factory you have a look of being very impressed , but when you get to the profileing line you get a look of , is that it ? is it really that easy ? where are all the complicated folding machines ? back in 02 i completely clad 2 sides & an extension roof of a dutch barn with 'end of roll' garage door profile from garadoor in yeovil cost me £100 on a back hander with sheets of 6x4ft sections , to buy good sale profile would have set me back nearly £2500 ! well if i hadn't had them they have been skiped , what a waste ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted July 30, 2009 Author Share Posted July 30, 2009 Yes Marcus it was an interesting tour we had of the factory.A family run business with a father and two sons and quite a few other family members working in the business. That's the kind of business I like dealing with when you can speak to the people you are buying from. In any great quantities profile can be expensive so it looks as though you bagged a good deal with yours ;) They have also started a line in profile fencing and profile prebuilt garages and sheds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Well I'm just back from two weeks holiday and for around 14 of that 16 days off me and my father got started on my new tractor shed. Day 1 was Monday the 17th August and the first thing tio do was go to the builders merchants and get the framing the weather boarding and the floor boards. I had to remove the front door of the trailer which is 12 feet long and had an overhang out the front and rear. I don't partcul;arly like loads like this but fortunately my straps and ropes held and the load never shifted on the road from Inverurie to Drumoak. Timber now stored inside the garage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Afternoon of day 1 and the floor bearers get cut at 9 foot 10 inches long ( father does not use metric and also still uses a 3 foot rule which annoys me silly ) Flooring inside garage Getting cross bearers ready If we checked for square ( corner to corner diagonal ) once using an imperial tape line we must have done it a dozen times Now ready for flooring but back inside for the night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Day 2 Tuesday the 18th August Test run for optinum use of flooring boards I had to criticise him since he does that to me but his countersinking doesnt look to be plumb 2nd floor sheet ( moisture resistant but no longer green ) now fitted Out with the Stanley plane Cutting the last sheett with the Power Devil rip snorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Lunchtime day 2 and thats the floor now completed Like Wimbleton rain stops play so out with the old lorry curtain side to cover up the floor and leave outside so we can continue in the limited garage space. Cutting framing for bottom and top of high side Floor now back inside and used to make the high side framing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Day 3 Wednesday 18th August 1st weatherboard on high side with a inch overlap at bottom to copver the 16 mm flooring 5th board one a third of the way there on the high side High side complete but run 15 not nailed on until couples are on Well only a 1/2 day today since dad had an appointment. gave me a change to get some bits and bobs from Screwfix in Tullos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Day 4 Thursday 20th August Offcuts from high side set aside for rear gale 1st coat of butinox on high side Rear gale boarding set on trailer to get an accurate frame size for the low side ( 14 weather board high) and to tie in with couples etc I did a miscalculation on the high side frame size so need to nail on an extra 2 x 2 inch on top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Wild wet and windy so rain stops play again Pre drilling frame bottom and top rails tp prevent splitting when nailing High side butinoxed in morning carried outside and covered to protect from rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Rain storm outside so thank goodness we decided to build sectionally inside Frame for low side made and clamped and stitched to floor with nails 5th board on low side and today father has brought his gardening stool to help him up My knees were killing me so he kindly brought accross knee pads which he had but never uses since he is used to crawling about End of day four - 5 boards on - 3 full plus 2 in halves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC Posted August 31, 2009 Author Share Posted August 31, 2009 Day 5 Friday 21st August Last weatherboard for low side fitted ( no 14 ) fitted but not nailed Bye bye told home says french Cub Old temporay shed now empty High side off trailer and covered in case of rain Low side now completed Floor rolled out in roller since a bit heavy now for lifting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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