Deere-est Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I need to find someone with a real one of those Krampes for me to use..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 The Krampe Big Body 650 is actually a 22.0 ton trailer,and requires 150HP, http://www.krampe.de/produkte/krampe-wannenkipper.php?we_objectID=1861 Regards Joe. My reading of it is that it has a 22 tonne Gross Vehicle Weight at 40km/h under German Law, and that it has a 15.5 tonne payload. It's cubic capacity is much the same as the 16 tonne Kane halfpipe. The 415 and 516 meet the 150hp benchmark. The Ford 7810 doesn't need to http://www.krampe.de/produkte/krampe-wannenkipper.php?we_objectID=1861&detail=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegreen Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Have you tried tipping 16tons of whatever with a short wheelbase light tractor I suggested my new 939 or 828 as both are 60kph (44mph) because the Krampe is built for fast tractor use.............and I havent got a 724 on the carpet fleet Im glad I was right about the greedy boards being detachable that makes the model a must have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Have you tried tipping 16tons of whatever with a short wheelbase light tractor I suggested my new 939 or 828 as both are 60kph (44mph) because the Krampe is built for fast tractor use.............and I havent got a 724 on the carpet fleet Im glad I was right about the greedy boards being detachable that makes the model a must have I've drawn silage with a Ford 6640 and a 16 ton Dooley. No bother. If you have a 939 and 828 then the Wiking Fliegl ASW would be a much better match. Are they greedy boards or silage extensions? The big question for me will be whether they fit under the ROS Grimme potato harvester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael6270 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 150 hp sounds a bit small for 16 ton. the fendt 828 would look nice on the front of it i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 thats kramp could be a possable buy for me now i know the sides come off, shame the rear extension doesnt appear to be removable, doubt it would be to hard to do at the end of the day,front section seems to fold down on a ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 The rear extension should be easy enough to remove Sean,if it doesn't already come off, Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 will have to get a good look at one first joe, sure some of the new mf brouchures show the bigger 76 and 86 models towing one like this so would be nice along side maybe the new uh combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catkom3 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Check these out Sean,http://www.krampe.de/produkte/krampe-wannenkipper.php?we_objectID=1861&detail=5 Regards Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 off topic,but if bluegreen wants a fendt 828 on the trailer then fine,its down to each individual,im waiting for somebody to post saying theyve pulled a 16 ton trailer with a mf 135 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I've pulled a fit bird with my charm, does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenside MF Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I've pulled a fit bird with my charm, does that count? more like a fat bird that was 16 stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 bas shouldnt the i in fit be an a? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 off topic,but if bluegreen wants a fendt 828 on the trailer then fine,its down to each individual,im waiting for somebody to post saying theyve pulled a 16 ton trailer with a mf 135 Of course he can choose to put an 828 or a 939 under small trailer, but it would be an horrendous waste of diesel, time and money to do so. Just as the neighbours would point and laugh at someone doing that in the real world, so it is on FTF when it comes to 1:32. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 more like a fat bird that was 16 stone aaa, 16 stone is slim round here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Of course he can choose to put an 828 or a 939 under small trailer, but it would be an horrendous waste of diesel, time and money to do so. Just as the neighbours would point and laugh at someone doing that in the real world, so it is on FTF when it comes to 1:32. ive seen it done enough times,me included,a fendt 820 on a 10 foot grassland roller,but it was the only tractor available,what about my lexion 770 tt dio,does that mean i can only display it in august? models are that thing when you dont have to stick to much to reality surely,anyway as i said off topic,lets get back to the wiking models eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deere-est Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 It also means not all models have to have mirrors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 It also means not all models have to have mirrors got me their tris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPN Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Dunno about a 135, but here's a 165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeere6910 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 I've got a picture of a 2wd 4270 MF pulling a silage trailer loaded with 18 ton of wheat if that helps? (it was in the yard mind) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegreen Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Of course he can choose to put an 828 or a 939 under small trailer, but it would be an horrendous waste of diesel, time and money to do so. Just as the neighbours would point and laugh at someone doing that in the real world, so it is on FTF when it comes to 1:32. What nonsense..............One of the biggest contractors in east anglia (Ollie Arnold) runs two Fendt936s and four new John Deere 6210Rs, all six tractors have to earn their keep and the Fendt 900s were favoured over their JD 8000 rivals because they are so versatile and quick on the road!! I sat as a passenger on board one of the 6210Rs during the maize haulage and the driver said the 936s drank the same amount of fuel on the roadwork with a 16tonnne trailer as the Deeres and they are not SCR version Fendts either! You seem to be under the illusion that a 350hp tractor should only be deployed for heavy draft work? The reason people buy expensive big Fendt tractors is because they are incredibly frugal and save time due to speed ,plus offering the opportunity to be used for virtually any use on farm unlike heavyweight JD CASE offerings. Also here in the UK we are not permitted to use the giant triple axle trailers on our roads legally when they are full of produce as they would be way over the limit, thats the main reason why big tractors are seen pulling relatively small trailers. If I had said I was putting a Magnum 340 on the front of a 17 tonne Krampe 650 I would receive justified criticism (from somebody ) but not a Fendt 900 Ive taken loads of pictures of big Fendts pulling 14 - 18 tonners plus one local chap who owns a Krampe big body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 i think phil,people feel good if they say they only have a small tractor pulling a large trailer,which is not practical,i have seen on all sorts of farms and estates with the fendt 900 series sort of hp on these trailers,i dont really care if people say a ford 66 or whatever pulls a 16 ton trailer fine,,would love to see it going uphill,around a yard its different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HS. Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 Big tractors aren't just for massive machinery, you buy a tractor suited for what your going to be doing, if its got to do light work to pay its self off then that's what has to be done, seen me pulling a 2 tonne digger with the 936 before, for speed, and easiness, it was some sight, most people would think it was funny and stupid, but if the tractors got to be working all the time to pay its self off, you must do stupid things like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Palmer Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 i think youve summed it up perfectly harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorman810 Posted February 2, 2013 Share Posted February 2, 2013 do many kramp trailers get sold over here then?? cant say i have seen one up east anglia way when i have been that way,plenty of rollands westerns and alikes, certainly unlikely to see a kramp this way, heck i have only just started seeing redrocks and kanes :laugh: they certainly look well built trailers compaired to the likes or marston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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